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I think we've moved beyond the hardcore stage of the console lifecycle and the appeal is broadening to include less die hard gamers and those with differing tastes from this year onwards. 

The games that will really move hardware for the 360 now, are the "Come and play with me" type games that are easy to get into and have a wide appeal. Games like Fable 2, Sacred 2, Halo Wars, Too Human, and the old Halo 3 are the keys to accelerating sales for the Xbox360 this year IMO. Price cuts would only assist this process further. My reasoning is this, an Xbox360 owner buys a game. He wants to play Coop or Multiplayer with a friend without a console so he says "Hey I think you should buy an Xbox360 so we can Coop on X and Y game and I think you'll enjoy it, its only $299 now". I don't think its a coincidence that the Xbox360 upcoming games lineup is stacked with quite a few of these types of games.

This is the key for the Xbox360 to broaden its sales base in the states and for Microsoft to sell more of its extremely profitable Live Gold subscriptions. This is targeting the gap between the Wii and the HD consoles at present to try and draw in as many people as they can. Consoles with easy multiplayer are perfect examples of this. The Wii by design is a "Come and play with me" console, and IMO this explains a lot of their success. Their own userbase is their best marketing weapon.

They can afford Price cuts strictly because they expect X numbers of Gold subscriptions to be sold per console and they benifit from current ones as well, they can finally make the console fully reliable and divert a lot of the money used to pay for repairs into profits/price cuts, and the total cost to make the machine will drop with this refresh even more so than the Falcon, because the GPU and heatsink are both big and expensive and the fact that they are shrinking every other chip on the motherboard.

Lastly I think the Jasper refresh is time for Microsoft to make some changes to the console specs.

1. The small HDD and lack of wireless is hindering their Live/Online media delivery strategy so it makes perfect sense to at least implement wireless if not bump the HDD space up a little to 40-60gb on the Pro model. They lose money when people can't connect to live gold or when they buy the competitions console because the Xbox doesn't have wireless. They lose further when they miss out on potential media/arcade sales due to a lack of space. Wireless and some extra HDD space is cheap and they'd likely make the money back easy with extra gold subscribers and extra sales. The chips and the changes required to do both would cost less than $5 to implement most likely.

2. Optional Blu ray in the Elite SKU. They have a close relationship with ATI so implementing a media decoding chip will be a cinch, especially as they're shrinking all the chips and releasing a new motherboard design.



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Yeah, I am feeling like that a bit. Though alot of my friends got Wiis as secondary consoles and now like Wii better than 360 cuz of all the great multiplayer games that have come out like mario kart and smash.



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Hmmm.... I would like to agree. But then well.... I thought 360 already had some games that had that come play with me feel.... and the 360 is the cheaper of the HD consoles already.... A price cut would do wonders but I think this come play with me strategy would've worked by now... though I could be wrong.



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1. Yoshi: He ate my car and spit out a toaster.

2. Igglybuff: Totally false advertisement. You can have as many as you like they don't buff nothing.

3. the Terms Hardcore/Softcore... We're talking Video Games. Not Porn.

4. The term Casual as relates to Gamers: We make them sound like outsider's that happen to play games.  If that were the case they'd own a PS3.

5. Donuts.... Beacause I drink Beer...... and the biggest fan of Donuts hates Beer.

6. Boycotts: Their so lame.

 

 

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starcraft said:
Shame I'm off to bed.
Everything in your OP is full of win.

More comments tomorrow if the thread survives.


Night Squilliam.

Thanks!

Im off to bed too, im well overdue myself. Damn Civ IV makes me stay up!

One last point:

Microsoft understands network effects better than most companies in existance. Their entire business model depends on it. So it makes sense that they would implement their strategies around causing people to bring their friends into their camp. Thats the reason why they implemented multiplayer so strongly and why they included a headset in the Pro model. Its to get people to involve their friends.

Granted, the Wii's done it better so far but it looks like the lineup of games come together so well on this point that it scares me.



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Umm. I believe that's why so many people already have a 360 in the US. I don't see this having much of an effect moving forward as the Wii is now becoming the social gaming device, even in the US.



sigh i will say it again wireless is a waste of time for online gaming, and hinders online performance... if you enoy getting the quality of signal/speed that your paying for ethernet is the way to go..

larger hds or cheaper swappable would be welcome, especial if they plan on making anything of their download services



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I think the XBOX 360 will do well this year regardless of many factors Software support ,competition etc. I think MS's main focous would be to do well in comparison to it's competitors which I'm not so sure it will do.

Nintendo and Sony are activley taking MS's market share.




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2009.04.30 - PS3 will OUTSELL x360 atleast by the middle of 2010. Japan+Europe > NA.


Gran Turismo 3 - 1,06 mln. in 3 weeks with around 4 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Gran Turismo 4 - 1,16 mln. with 18 mln. PS2 on the launch.

Final Fantasy X - around 2 mln. with 5 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Final Fantasy X-2 - 2.4 mln. with 12 mln. PS2 on the launch.

 

1.8 mln. PS3 today(2008.01.17) in Japan. Now(2009.04.30) 3.16 mln. PS3 were sold in Japan.
PS3 will reach 4 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 25k.

PS3 may reach 5 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 50k.
PS2 2001 vs PS3 2008 sales numbers =) + New games released in Japan by 2009 that passed 100k so far