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Aozora said:
Darc Requiem said:
CrazzyMan said:
@Darc Requiem,

Tears of Tiara
Cross Edge
White Knight Chronicles
Eternal Sonata

Are NOT released YET.
+FFXIII MIGHT come this year, or in January 2009, still that wil leffect sales by a LOT.

Yes, with average 10k per week, PS3 isn`t doing GREAT in Japan, but that wil CHANGE, because Japanese WANT PS3, but it just don`t have enough JRPGs YET.
Soon will have.

Isn't doing great!? Its bombing. The Japanese don't want the PS3. It they did it wouldn't doing so poorly. The PS2 had no games for the first 18 months or so and the Japanese still bought it in droves. The PS3 has had quality titles and its still tanking. By in large the Japanese have shown that they prefer portable consoles. The Wii is the exception to the rule. Ever big named PS3 title has failed to change this so far. The only one that will have a significant chance at spiking sales to a respectable level, FFXIII, is year off.  When it does hit, it will be the PS3's Ocarinal of Time. an exceptionally well selling title on a platform doomed to a distance second place in Japan.

I know that many Japanese gamers who want PS3 are just waiting for the price drop. They are usually not satisfied with only Wii games, that's why PS2 games still sell well in Japan.
And how do you know this?

 



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sc94597 said:
Aozora said:
Darc Requiem said:
CrazzyMan said:
@Darc Requiem,

Tears of Tiara
Cross Edge
White Knight Chronicles
Eternal Sonata

Are NOT released YET.
+FFXIII MIGHT come this year, or in January 2009, still that wil leffect sales by a LOT.

Yes, with average 10k per week, PS3 isn`t doing GREAT in Japan, but that wil CHANGE, because Japanese WANT PS3, but it just don`t have enough JRPGs YET.
Soon will have.

Isn't doing great!? Its bombing. The Japanese don't want the PS3. It they did it wouldn't doing so poorly. The PS2 had no games for the first 18 months or so and the Japanese still bought it in droves. The PS3 has had quality titles and its still tanking. By in large the Japanese have shown that they prefer portable consoles. The Wii is the exception to the rule. Ever big named PS3 title has failed to change this so far. The only one that will have a significant chance at spiking sales to a respectable level, FFXIII, is year off. When it does hit, it will be the PS3's Ocarinal of Time. an exceptionally well selling title on a platform doomed to a distance second place in Japan.

I know that many Japanese gamers who want PS3 are just waiting for the price drop. They are usually not satisfied with only Wii games, that's why PS2 games still sell well in Japan.
And how do you know this?

 


 He retreived this knowledge out of his ass I believe.



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sc94597 said:
Aozora said:
Darc Requiem said:
CrazzyMan said:
@Darc Requiem,

Tears of Tiara
Cross Edge
White Knight Chronicles
Eternal Sonata

Are NOT released YET.
+FFXIII MIGHT come this year, or in January 2009, still that wil leffect sales by a LOT.

Yes, with average 10k per week, PS3 isn`t doing GREAT in Japan, but that wil CHANGE, because Japanese WANT PS3, but it just don`t have enough JRPGs YET.
Soon will have.

Isn't doing great!? Its bombing. The Japanese don't want the PS3. It they did it wouldn't doing so poorly. The PS2 had no games for the first 18 months or so and the Japanese still bought it in droves. The PS3 has had quality titles and its still tanking. By in large the Japanese have shown that they prefer portable consoles. The Wii is the exception to the rule. Ever big named PS3 title has failed to change this so far. The only one that will have a significant chance at spiking sales to a respectable level, FFXIII, is year off.  When it does hit, it will be the PS3's Ocarinal of Time. an exceptionally well selling title on a platform doomed to a distance second place in Japan.

I know that many Japanese gamers who want PS3 are just waiting for the price drop. They are usually not satisfied with only Wii games, that's why PS2 games still sell well in Japan.
And how do you know this?

 


I'm Japanese and know lots of other Japanese gamers.



"nope thats not right...microsoft is in it to make money thats it."

er, do you know that ms already loose over 6 billion dollar with the xbox-adventure and is still loosing money. The shareholder are getting nervous with the whole xbox-thing and vista-thing already.



Im sorry but thats a load of bull. Microsofts Entertainment division has been making a profit for the last few quarters. They were losing money but they aren't losing money now, and they most certainly will post a profit for this fiscal year.



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When anything could be either a brilliant conspiracy or plain stupidity, always bet on stupidity because stupid people are infinitely more plentiful than brilliant ones.

All this talk about MS’s grand strategy to hurt Sony, or claim the media center market, or pave the way for the next generation is so much BS. You are talking about two companies whose video game strategy, such as it was, has gone so disastrously wrong that they don’t know how to fix it. They’re in too deep to get out but they can’t afford to keep going the way they are.

Microsoft has a lot of money, but they also have a plateful of problems that affect their core mission (anti-trust suits, a resurgent Apple, losing control of their own desktop, threats to Office). These are mission critical areas. Video gaming is a sideshow and one that was expected to make money. It might have, since it appeared that their first to market strategy was working; only in the rush they failed to test enough and shot themselves in the foot with a billion dollar bullet. With the failure to penetrate most foreign markets, and Nintendo’s incredible hat trick, this isn’t fun anymore. They’re not trying to assassinate Sony, they’re just trying to turn things around enough to even justify another generation. If things don’t improve they will be unlikely to return for a third round.

Sony is still in shock. They came into this generation fully expecting to own it the way they had the last. Most industry observers agreed, leading to such an arrogant overconfidence that they designed a console with the clear assumption that the market would pay any price to own the next Play Station. The burdened themselves with an overly expensive optical drive for reason that were not primarily game related. The result was a wonderful machine but one that was so expensive even Sony couldn’t defend the price and they went to market losing as much money on every console as Nintendo charged for theirs. This was such an absurd business model that we actually have an official statement that loses were less than anticipated because sales were not as high as expected ….say what?

So Sony was trapped in a disastrous death spiral of losing obscene amounts of money matched only by equally dismal loses of market share to a rival that no one considered a serious contender. In the end they just managed to turn enough of a corner to survive, but at the cost of wiping out all of the profits from the immensely successful PS2. Even now they are in the unenviable position of being under constant pressure to cut prices before they can even begin to see any real profit at the current price. It’s not about strategy with Sony this time, it’s about survival.

Like two punch-drunk prize fighters they are now mainly driven by the hope that they will outlast each other leaving a decently profitable market share no longer split between them.

And that’s about as high a strategy as they can afford to worry about right now.



getting JRPGs on the 360 and getting japanese developers on it is not only to hurt sony... it make the console more japanese.
If developers already know the console, or the previous one, they are more likely to at least port the games.
Also the japanese customers, if they see plenty of japanese games on 360 might think that the next console is not that americanized when it comes out. I'd bet in MS's mind, they plan to have RPGs out along with the next console to sustain this idea.



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Hawkeye said:
mrduckbear said:

If it does not make a greater dent on overall sales or sell a whole **** load in Japan with Square-Enix's help now, you can officially say the 360 will no longer get exclusive JRPG's. Nor will Japan ever embrace the console. We all know Microsoft is filling them up with bags of money to buy out exclusives, and not even Nintendo or Sony has enough money to buy them out. This is probably why they bit the hand of the rich mogul because they need money now and sacrificing fans for money bribes was the only way to do it. This also tests the fanbase of the Americans and their love or hate for JRPG's. being that Star Ocean was a PS game, SO4 jumping to the 360 may confuse american gamers since many of them may have never played a SO game before.

 

But this is officially Microsoft's last chance to start proving to japanese devs that they can do better than the PS3 in Japan and if this doesn't do it, they better stop dropping more money for a wasted effort.


Not nessicarily. Rember Microsfot's goal #1 is to steal market share from sony. (gaol number 2 being become #1 overall and make profit) Stealling all those JRPGs might be preventing Sony from dooing better in Japan, and may be helping 360 in EU/USA/Canada/AU, so it might still be worth it. And if the library gets big enough, the japanese might decide to buy the system for the games, even if they dislike the system/brand itself.

I'm sorry but I don't believe microsoft's number 1 goal is to steal market share with their second console , with the XBOX 360 I imagine that their main goal would be to profitable with the XBOX 360 , stealing market share as a main objective is some what stupid .

 




Aozora said:
I know that many Japanese gamers who want PS3 are just waiting for the price drop. They are usually not satisfied with only Wii games, that's why PS2 games still sell well in Japan.

There was a PS3 price drop before the PS3 even launched.  Sony did that after determining the excitement level for the PS3 in Japan.

Maybe PS2 software sales are pretty good because there are 22 million PS2s in Japan.  But right now, the number one choice for consoles in Japan is the DS and the Wii (PSP is gaining some steam, though).  The PS3 isn't on the radar in Japan as it is about as unpopular as the Xbox 360.