Do you actually have any QUANTITIES? 1000? 5000? 50,000?

It doesn't actually mean anything unless you attach numbers to it.

Or look at it this way:

 - "Others" is selling around 100k PS3s a week at the moment

 - this might increase to ... 150k? for the MGS4 launch

There might be 10,000 bundles - which represents 7% of the total PS3 sales for the week.

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We all saw what happened with GTA - weekly sales spiked to 200% on the week it was released - and within 4 weeks it was back to normal.

I'm pretty sure MGS will have LESS of an impact on sales than GTA did - so maybe an extra 100k hardware in Europe (over a month), 100k in the US, and about 50k in Japan.

The Japan sales will be interesting - with the PS3 hovering around the 9k mark (weekly), be real interesting to see what level hardware hits on launch week - I'm guessing around 30k.

Why? Because they were fake, or because it was amusing to see the chance of a game being ruined for possibly hundreds of people?

he forgot to mention that the mgs4 bundle isn't even available in the uk, yet the ps3 has sold out in 4 online retailers. i think mgs4 will sell less software compared to gta4, but because it's exclusive, it will sell alot more hardware.

I don't see MGS4 doing anything significant for PS3 hardware - but we'll see. Maybe extra 200k hardware over 1-2 months.

Boycotting Ubisoft is a joke - why?? I just don't get it. At least they are actually supporting the Wii. It makes perfect sense for them to spend the "mega" bucks on 360/PS3 titles IMO. When they do actually announce their big Wii titles at least they should be good. "Casual" gamers just don't care about high quality gfx, etc - so spending the time/money on it is silly.

You haven't seen the pics and vids. It's not the lack of major effort. It's the lack of even decent effort. Dogz uses graphics from the DS. I am not kidding. The biggest traditional game they showed looked like a PS1 game, that was ported to the Dreamcast. What really set it off was a ubisoft employee, who was a mod for their official forum, and he posted a long reply about how traditional gamers don't exist on the Wii, and that the Wii basically wasn't worth more than the effort they were showing.

And then a guy, who might have been a plant from Ubisoft, came here and bashed the Wii, and said the Wii didn't deserve any traditional games. The guy was permabanned, but the thought that Ubisoft was basically telling gamers what to think was what upset us the most, so a lot of us said we would boycott ubisoft, if that was what they thought of gamers (if they could dump on the Wii, what was next).

The next day or so, ubisoft stated that mod may be an employee, but he did not speak for ubisoft. So some of us are waiting until E3 to see if ubisoft is going to show the Wii any respect. We don't expect $20 million games, just games with more effort than made by interns. 

Oh yeah - also saw the Beyond G&E II announcement - sweet, loved that for the GC. Another reason for me to get a HD console (sometime).

Heard about the 90min cutscenes - its never been my sort of game, so sort of steering away from it in general (wrong person to comment on it). Sure its a good game though. Censoring reviewers is always a bad move though - story spoilers are one thing, but "features" is not. 

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IMO - bring Babiez Partiez on. The posters here are just showing that they are on this board for "fanboy" reasons, rather than industry/business reasons. Not only will that title undoubtably sell well, it could conceivably move more hardware than MGS4 did (no, not joking!). The more different a title is, and the more "hardcore" gamers "hate" on it - the more I'm liking the title.

Its exactly the reason the Wii is dominating - its the console for everyone, rather than just being for "gamers".

It wasn't that game, it was that only Ubiday, those were the best graphics they showed for their Wii game. Their best graphics for the Wii.  

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The whole Tecmo thing was pretty amusing :)

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I don't believe for a second that SO4 will be a 360 "exclusive" (unless its in the RE4 definition of GC exclusive). SquareEnix are in this for business, not fanboy reasons (*cough* Konami) - I expect basically everything will either be DS, Wii, PSP or 360/PS3 (combined) exclusive. Design for the platform in question, do it well - but when multiple platforms are essentially "identical" - then hit them both.

I wouldn't be at all surprised to see FFXIII turn up x-platform - we'll see.

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Lots more Wii games for me :) Happy me!

(just give me Fatal Frame for now... looking sweet!) 

The game does look good. A few of the pics creeped some of us out.