XiaoMay said: brute said: is that retailer pre-orders or costumer pre-orders? IT IS ALWAYS THE RETAILERS PRE-ORDERS, AKA THE MAXIMUM THE GAME CAN SELL Especially when the source is shinobi, who always gives retailers pre-orders (read the source here in japanese : http://ameblo.jp/sinobi/) So, it's FAR from being a lot... Just average. Siren the Wanderer 3 was around 100K preordered copies, and ended at 70k sells. I expect like 100k for 1st week in Japan for ToS2

What?!! THATS BAD... D: But  The Source says though: "Metal Gear Solid 4 is likely to do ~250,000 units week one on PS3. Whatever window PS3 has to outsell Wii in Japan appears short lived though, as Tales of Symphonia reservations are now just a tick shy of 150,000 units almost three weeks before release. Expect Wii hardware sales remain in the 40,000 to 50,000 unit range for the week." <--------- What could this mean?!! I read it too.

 

I just seen this on the game charts:

Tales of Symphonia GC:

Week 1 179,938 Japan

Soriku was right!

XiaoMay said: Soriku said: XiaoMay said: darthdevidem01 said: @Soriku yeah definetely do that THis is the FIRST JRPG (atleast BIG one) on Wii, thats why I believe most people are hyped.. Its success is very important for future support. Meaning 150k retailler's preorder is not so good for futurer JRPG on Wii... Uh...dude. It's costumer preorders/reservations. no, it's not I think. Read my previous post the numbers are directly from sinobi ameblo and he ALWAYS gives retailler's pre-order. so it's just an extrapolation from that the system in Japan make it IMPOSSIBLE to give customers preorders, just an estimation     I say that just for you guys not to be disapointed when you see the game selling around 100-120k on 1st week (What ? But we thought it had 150k pre-orders...

 those numbers are not from sinobi they are from vgchartz.  I have learned not to put much faith into the japanese preliminary numbers, they are often full of obvious mistakes and numbers can be way off.  I love vgchartz but that's just the truth about prelim numbers.

Must buy, must own.

johnsobas said: those numbers are not from sinobi they are from vgchartz. I have learned not to put much faith into the japanese preliminary numbers, they are often full of obvious mistakes and numbers can be way off. I love vgchartz but that's just the truth about prelim numbers.

 

 

With three weeks to go I really doubt there wont be more reservations maybe 10,000 to 30,000 more so I expect to similiar opening week as the gamecube counterpart but longer legs.

XiaoMay said: johnsobas said: those numbers are not from sinobi they are from vgchartz. I have learned not to put much faith into the japanese preliminary numbers, they are often full of obvious mistakes and numbers can be way off. I love vgchartz but that's just the truth about prelim numbers. I love vgchartz too, and when The Source says 150k preoders, I understand 100 k sells for 1st week Which is not so bad, but I don't expect more from Wii If the game was to do something like 220k on 1st week, I would really be happy though

Thats almost as sales of first week of MGS4 first week if that happens... The Source said himself.

 

If I read TheSource's prelim correctly he says: 150.000 RESERVATIONS for ToS2 and 210.000 PRE-ORDERS for MGS4 (I assume that's without the bundles).

I assume that reservations are actually reservations by costumers. That would mean it could definitely do around 180.000 first week.

we'll have to see though. I hope TheSource will explain here what he means with the numbers.

BengaBenga said: Very good, not only for Wii, but for JRPG lovers as well. Shiren 3 sold pretty good and ToS seems to at least outsell Symphonia (and thereby automatically become the best sold Tales ever).

 I was curious to know how Shiren 3 sold.  Do you have any figures?  We don't seem to have any data on the site.

Daileon said: Being a nice niche game on a non-niche genre? Then I guess that the sales build up after the buyers tell their friends how awesome this game is and etc... Whatever, I don't think that Tales of is a really niche franchise. XD

 Tales isn't as niche as Soriku says it is.  Tales may not reach FF-level sales numbers but calling Tales niche is like calling Star Ocean niche.  Both Tales and SO aren't as niche as some might think.  Both ToS and SO3 sold a million copies WW LTD