RolStoppable said: DMeisterJ said: Ok Rol. Y R U? I don't want to talk about it.

LOL.

You're one of a kind Mr Stoppable.  

You ask me to ask you a question, yet you don't wanna talk about it.  

RolStoppable said: DMeisterJ said: RolStoppable said: DMeisterJ said: Ok Rol. Y R U? I don't want to talk about it. LOL. You're one of a kind Mr Stoppable. You ask me to ask you a question, yet you don't wanna talk about it. Water freezes at a temperature of zero degree Celsius.

Actually, no.

It depends on pressure and the amount in solute in the water that is creating a crioscopic effect.

The kind of water that people drink doesn't freeze in PTNC (NTP).

 

Not that it matters..............=P

About Im saying that medal of Honor have clunky controls have you heard of Vanguard and Airborne? And as for why Im defending Ubi lets just say wait till E3.

There'll be 2 scenarios in this outcome, either Im eating crow or some of you eating crow but most sides are all against me so I have nothing to lose.

yushire said: About Im saying that medal of Honor have clunky controls have you heard of Vanguard and Airborne? And as for why Im defending Ubi lets just say wait till E3. There'll be 2 scenarios in this outcome, either Im eating crow or some of you eating crow but most sides are all against me so I have nothing to lose.

Airborne wasn't on the wii. Look at medal of honor 2 heroes for controls.

 

yushire said: About Im saying that medal of Honor have clunky controls have you heard of Vanguard and Airborne? And as for why Im defending Ubi lets just say wait till E3. There'll be 2 scenarios in this outcome, either Im eating crow or some of you eating crow but most sides are all against me so I have nothing to lose.

 

1. Heroes 2 is what got the praise of controls, not Vanguard and Airborne.

2. Who says anyone has to eat crow? If they do have great games, we will be glad, but still annoyed they made it look as though they were pissing on the Wii at Ubiday. If they have nothing but shovelware, you wouldn't have to eat crow, just understand why a lot of us (not all Wii owners) are upset.

sc94597 said: yushire said: About Im saying that medal of Honor have clunky controls have you heard of Vanguard and Airborne? And as for why Im defending Ubi lets just say wait till E3. There'll be 2 scenarios in this outcome, either Im eating crow or some of you eating crow but most sides are all against me so I have nothing to lose. Airborne wasn't on the wii. Look at medal of honor 2 heroes for controls.

OH SORRY! So its just Vanguard.

@lordoftheknight---------> What did Ubi did in Ubidays? did they publically announced at stage that the Wii was only for casuals and they say that its not for core gamer? If it is then Im all for the boycott. But if its because an admin in the forum says about bad things on the Wii or its just a executive talking on his ass about the Wii then the boycott was...

Or is it because of Beyond Good and Evil sequel didnt announced on the Wii?!! If thats the real reason I dont know anymore... If thats the case then we must boycott CAPCOM too because what we all have was a spin off of resident evil series while HD consoles have the true sequel to the resident evil series. And what the Wii have? Spyborgs and neopets?!! SEE?

 

I think most people aren't so mad about the casual games existing, its that they have just a little bit under no work put into them. The graphics were sub-last generation, etc. I don't see that many DS owners complaining about Nintendogs, etc; these games are quality games aimed at a separate demographic.

However, aiming at different demographics is NO reason to produce sub-standard games. Ubi's Petz line looks to basically be Anubis/Ninjabread Man/etc; the same game with shoddy graphics repurposed with slightly different models, and sold as though they were quality.

That kind of disdain for one's customers isn't indicative of a quality operation. If Ubi had class, they would put some effort into their work, and take pride in it. 

Now, you say that Spyborgs vs. Resident Evil means we should boycott capcom.

Even if we assume Spyborgs is a bad game (personally, I think it looks like an interesting premise, and I will wait to learn more before I condemn it) and that it is low budget (despite it being one of Capcom USA's highest developed games), at the very least we know it has a minimum amount of effort put into it, as the graphics are slightly above last generation (IMO, of course). Whether or not it ends up appealing to my tastes when all is said and done, we at least know that people who buy it are not necessarily getting lobbed shovelware and being expected to pretend it is up to par.

For you to put Spyborgs on the level of Dogz, etc. at this point, I think is a rash decision, and hopefully you do not let it blind you as the game nears completion.

 [edit: I forgot to put in this part before]

The reason I am boycotting Ubi personally is because that kind of corporate mentality is not something that only applies to their Wii titles.  This is just an extreme example of what a lot of their games are like.  Assassin's Creed may have sold well, and it may be some user's poster child for why Ubi is doing the right thing by producing AAA HD games and cheap Wii games, but I view it as proof that Ubi is treating the HD consoles the exact same as they treat the wii, only to a lesser extreme.  Look around the internet for videos of all the glitches, double characters, riding through rocks, etc; these are NOT the marks of a quality game.  These are the marks of a game that was rushed out, that was not given enough time to finish, etc.  They are the marks of the developers making a product 'good enough' to make the launch date.

 Is that the kind of company you want to earn your dollars?  Is that the business you want to support?  Because I would rather support a company that decides to make a cheap, yet well-made game than an expensive pile o' glitches. 

alpha_dk said: I think most people aren't so mad about the casual games existing, its that they have just a little bit under no work put into them. The graphics were sub-last generation, etc. I don't see that many DS owners complaining about Nintendogs, etc; these games are quality games aimed at a separate demographic. However, aiming at different demographics is NO reason to produce sub-standard games. Ubi's Petz line looks to basically be Anubis/Ninjabread Man/etc; the same game with shoddy graphics repurposed with slightly different models, and sold as though they were quality. That kind of disdain for one's customers isn't indicative of a quality operation. If Ubi had class, they would put some effort into their work, and take pride in it.  Now, you say that Spyborgs vs. Resident Evil means we should boycott capcom. Even if we assume Spyborgs is a bad game (personally, I think it looks like an interesting premise, and I will wait to learn more before I condemn it) and that it is low budget (despite it being one of Capcom USA's highest developed games), at the very least we know it has a minimum amount of effort put into it, as the graphics are slightly above last generation (IMO, of course). Whether or not it ends up appealing to my tastes when all is said and done, we at least know that people who buy it are not necessarily getting lobbed shovelware and being expected to pretend it is up to par. For you to put Spyborgs on the level of Dogz, etc. at this point, I think is a rash decision, and hopefully you do not let it blind you as the game nears completion.  [edit: I forgot to put in this part before] The reason I am boycotting Ubi personally is because that kind of corporate mentality is not something that only applies to their Wii titles.  This is just an extreme example of what a lot of their games are like.  Assassin's Creed may have sold well, and it may be some user's poster child for why Ubi is doing the right thing by producing AAA HD games and cheap Wii games, but I view it as proof that Ubi is treating the HD consoles the exact same as they treat the wii, only to a lesser extreme.  Look around the internet for videos of all the glitches, double characters, riding through rocks, etc; these are NOT the marks of a quality game.  These are the marks of a game that was rushed out, that was not given enough time to finish, etc.  They are the marks of the developers making a product 'good enough' to make the launch date.  Is that the kind of company you want to earn your dollars?  Is that the business you want to support?  Because I would rather support a company that decides to make a cheap, yet well-made game than an expensive pile o' glitches.

So as other 3rd parties during last year till now, anyone seen Alone in the Dark screenshots? YEAH, we must not judge it according to screenshots but we certainly sure its a PS2 port with tack on controls. And about Ubi, who said that they develop great games? The only good thing I played that came from Ubi was rayman and prince of Persia, like I said, theyre a publisher not a developer unless you want  Tom clancy games on the Wii but you never liked it even they exclusively released it on the Wii. 

 

catz, dogz, and imagine babies with awesome releastic graphics :)

RolStoppable said: DMeisterJ said: RolStoppable said: DMeisterJ said: Ok Rol. Y R U? I don't want to talk about it. LOL. You're one of a kind Mr Stoppable. You ask me to ask you a question, yet you don't wanna talk about it. Water freezes at a temperature of zero degree Celsius.

Erm... Okay.