NJ5 said: colonelstubbs said: Not everyone can afford state of the art televisions....some of us can barely afford a console Luckily, this thread is not about buying HDTVs, it's about how to maximize your picture quality if you already have one.

Fair dos

After playing numerous gamecube games and Wii games on a 60-70" TV, I've gotta say that they look great so it isn't the TV.

I think it's more a matter of the player.  After playing Brawl, I suddenly started noticing a lot of visual problems with Melee.  I'd just went from something crisp, clean, and new to something older.  I think that's where a lot of PS3/360 fans are coming from.  They get used to HD visuals and then switch to the Wii and find it to be a step backwards.  Of course, then they ignorantly blame it on the TV. 

I have my Wii connected via component cables to my Sony AV received which does the scaling and outputs to the 42" plasma screen through the HDMI cable. The result is really extrodinarily good, probably because the AV receiver has better upsampling ability than a TV.

i have a 1080i 37" lcd tv, Wii games look much better than they do on smaller or standard def tvs, but still nowhere near my PS3/360

Yes that would be part of it. The other part is the fact it only displays 480p. Compared to PS360 displaying in 1080p.

Compensating for something are we?

 Someday in the super future it will all be projections and holograms and time machines, with personal robot butlers and Christopher Lloyd working in the garage: like I am sure you have at your hydro thunder mansion of power.

But until then, we will have to get by with our "peasant level electronics".  /end sarcasm 

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TV's are a tricky business so i'm not surprised by the mixed results. I play Prime 3 at 576i on my Chinese no name CRT and it looks slightly better than 480i and runs smoothly. For some strange reason i can't play Galaxy at 576i because the game starts dropping frames. Obviously the TV doesn't like Galaxy's 50hz signal.

However when i'm at home i play on my 37inch HD-CRT and i'd take the flat screen challenge any day with that TV. On that TV even GC games that did 480p looked extremely crisp, F-Zero for example. CRTs still just have better picture, a shame they are so bloody big.

My personal opinion of why people don't experience that same issues with the 360/PS3 is that they both have very good scalers built into them. So no matter what the game is rendered at 480P,540P,587P,640P,720P, 1080P the tv gets the exact resolution it wants. Even the cheap HD sets can handle that.

This was an issue people rarely discussed when 1080P vs. 720P was a big cost difference and people said 1080P wasn't worth it . But scaling to 1080P is very easy and clean.

I also watched a Firefly dvd on my friends tv and it looked like crap. I think he had it hooked up with composite cables as well. I never knew what badly handled deinterlacing looked like before but I do now.