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HappySqurriel said:
steven787 said:
I don't know of any other medium where ninjas, pirates, space marines, aliens, cyborgs, gangs, etc. are considered mature.

Porn my friend, it always comes down to porn ...

Seriously though, I do think this debate over what kinds of games are mature or not really comes from the ESRB screwing up and calling childishly violent games "Mature." This isn't to say that there are not mature games that are rated "Mature" but they're very rare ...

(Oh yeah, and you forgot Zombies)


 Zombies, and anthropomorphic animals with hi-res textures... low-rez textured anthropomorphs are so 4 deh kiddiez



I would cite regulation, but I know you will simply ignore it.

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mesoteto said:
outlawauron said:
sc94597 said:
xenophon13 said:
@sc94957 I have been playing mario for oh what is it now...20 years? is that possible? I remember getting my first nintendo system, and mario was great, but i am tired of mario.

Zelda still holds my interests, but no, no more playing as a little plumber anymore for me.

I am not saying my dollar is more valuable, but can i be sad that the types of games i enjoy might disapear?
And whats wrong with playing as the same character again? It's not like its the same game.

Because people want something different! Is there something wrong with new ips? I think most of his complaints stem from Nintendo not making a lot of new ips that appeal to the hardcore audience.

 

I also can't believe you critcized him for want some new characters in Nintendo games........


yet the most hyped games for the comp tend to be sequels and rehashs

 

 

i think alot of people need to rember this "thats the pot calling the kettle black "


I dunno, there have been A LOT of of hyped new IP's from the competition this gen:

Bioshock, Lair, Heavenly Sword, Gears of War, Uncharted, Mass Effect, GRAW, etc.

EDIT: Sorry, I read that wrong. I thought you had written 'most hyped games' as opposed to 'the most hyped games' in which case, you're completely right. My apologies.



BengaBenga said:
Ssyn said:

Combine the PS3 and 360 numbers and the hardcore base is still bigger than the Wii base. Now there are many ways we might see them move into the next gen:


You sir are so much captured in your elitist thoughts that you don't even see that a huge part of the Wii audience is f*ing hardcore. So hardcore even that they played games like Chrono Trigger, Ghost & Goblins, Castlevania, Contra, Battletoads, Mega Man etc when you were in your diapers.



 Talk about hostility... I'll reiterate so not to make anyone else angry if my simple setence manages to provke that. The "People who like high graphics and traditnal games base" is still higher due to the PS3 and 360 numbers combined surpassing the Wii by a decent margin.

 When you make an angry rant and try to imply the person you're flaming is younger than you really doesn't work.



@Ssyn

Hi guy, you must like MG4, and I'm guessing your a PS3 owner or about to be or want to be, also I'm guessing that you love yourself some HD.

Oh by the way check out the front page and see that % next to the total Wiis sold, Wii used to have less and less of the %.

Currently the trend is showing Wii sales to be roughly 2:1 the HD userbase being the lesser, it's a good run but yea the trend is also growing slowly in other words 2:1 is slowly turning into 3:1, that's kind of impressive to me considering the company the Wii is in.

Oh and your math is askew by the way, Subtract 6 million from the Xbox's install base then you have yourself a fair number as the 360 was out 1 year ahead of time.

So thats what? 13 million + 13 million is around 26 million (these are rounded up by the way)

versus Wii's 27 million... hmm ahh that seems like.. wow guess Wii user base would be larger than Xbox360 if you take out it's 1 year advantage over the PS3 & Wii.

But either way with that kind of math it's scary the difference when it actually hits 50% market share considering Xbox360 had a year head start.



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outlawauron said:
sc94597 said:
xenophon13 said:
@sc94957 I have been playing mario for oh what is it now...20 years? is that possible? I remember getting my first nintendo system, and mario was great, but i am tired of mario.

Zelda still holds my interests, but no, no more playing as a little plumber anymore for me.

I am not saying my dollar is more valuable, but can i be sad that the types of games i enjoy might disapear?
And whats wrong with playing as the same character again? It's not like its the same game.

Because people want something different! Is there something wrong with new ips? I think most of his complaints stem from Nintendo not making a lot of new ips that appeal to the hardcore audience.

 

I also can't believe you critcized him for want some new characters in Nintendo games........

Of course not, but that doesn't make mario bad because it has the same character in the last 20 yrs.

Oh and btw there are alot of nintendo ips with new charcters. The existing games don't need anymore. 

 



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Viper1 said:
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Words Of Wisdom said:
Shameless said:
SaviorX said:
Diomedes1976 said:
Sqrl said:

Hmm....where does fear fit into this?

  1. Denial
  2. Anger
  3. Bargaining
  4. Depression
  5. Acceptance

 

 

I just don't get why people get so bent out of shape about the Wii being successful. As I have said from the beginning of this generation when the point was intitially raised, as long as there is profit to be made from the "hardcore" games they will survive.

 

 

Yes ,on a machine barely capable of outdoing the PS2 and Cube and worse in all the senses to the Xbox 1(online ,graphics ,etc).Thats the problem.

 


No, on a machine containing certain chips present in the Xbox360 itself, much improved hardware over the GameCube, capable of running PS2 games in it's sleep, and BETTER graphics than the Xbox1, I see no problem.

Wait, not enough space marines.......


Not really a difference. The Wii hasn't been proven to be any better than the XBox yet. There's no need to post touched up Mario Galaxy screens either if you were thinking of doing so.


Shadows.


Not to mention lighing effects. And destructable/morphing backgrounds.


 And 4 players on screen at once plus any of 37 assist trophies or (Smash attacks, dozens of weapons, metal suits, etc...)


 Lol that's funny. He shows Ninja Gaiden Black upscaled with a 360 to prove wii's graphics are bad, and he is still wrong. 



sc94597 said:
 

Lol that's funny. He shows Ninja Gaiden Black upscaled with a 360 to prove wii's graphics are bad, and he is still wrong.


 To be fair to both sides of this argument, SSBB doesn't have to render the other side because it is 2-1/2D and Ninja Gaiden is not the best example for shaders, shadows or texture quality.  On the other hand, Wii has had a few really beautiful games.



I would cite regulation, but I know you will simply ignore it.

dib8rman said:
@Ssyn

Hi guy, you must like MG4, and I'm guessing your a PS3 owner or about to be or want to be, also I'm guessing that you love yourself some HD.

Oh by the way check out the front page and see that % next to the total Wiis sold, Wii used to have less and less of the %.

Currently the trend is showing Wii sales to be roughly 2:1 the HD userbase being the lesser, it's a good run but yea the trend is also growing slowly in other words 2:1 is slowly turning into 3:1, that's kind of impressive to me considering the company the Wii is in.

Oh and your math is askew by the way, Subtract 6 million from the Xbox's install base then you have yourself a fair number as the 360 was out 1 year ahead of time.

So thats what? 13 million + 13 million is around 26 million (these are rounded up by the way)

versus Wii's 27 million... hmm ahh that seems like.. wow guess Wii user base would be larger than Xbox360 if you take out it's 1 year advantage over the PS3 & Wii.

But either way with that kind of math it's scary the difference when it actually hits 50% market share considering Xbox360 had a year head start.

 More importantly gaming as a whole does not revolve around the current batch of home consoles. This newfound argument of the PS360 > Wii isn't applicable to the gaming world at large. Outside the 7th generation consoles you have the DS and PSP, the former of which dominates Japan's software charts on a routine basis. The 6th generation consoles, which includes the PS2 whose LTD sales roughly double all the 7th generation system's sales to date. Cellphone games. Retro gamers with entire collections of older titles they play. Cellphone games. The worldwide PC gaming market which ranges everywhere from PopCap games, to World of Warcraft, my late grandmother playing online bridge, obsessive lunatics who spend more time modding games then playing them, me screwing around on flash games RubangB recommends, to hundreds and hundreds of other niches out there.

Not to mention the gaming industry's continuing focus on re-releasing old titles. From remakes, to collections, digital re-releases on consoles and computers. Something that clashes with this assumption the majority are more interested in high-end graphics. Then there's what wrong with these sweeping generalizations that paint the HD console and Wii owners as single minded collectives. Suggesting everyone who owns the HD consoles because of their graphical capabilities, or there are no Wii owners interested in traditional gameplay.

Can't help but think we'll see more of this PS3/360 > Wii jargon as some people enter the bargaining stage. =P



BrainBoxLtd said:
dib8rman said:
@Ssyn

Hi guy, you must like MG4, and I'm guessing your a PS3 owner or about to be or want to be, also I'm guessing that you love yourself some HD.

Oh by the way check out the front page and see that % next to the total Wiis sold, Wii used to have less and less of the %.

Currently the trend is showing Wii sales to be roughly 2:1 the HD userbase being the lesser, it's a good run but yea the trend is also growing slowly in other words 2:1 is slowly turning into 3:1, that's kind of impressive to me considering the company the Wii is in.

Oh and your math is askew by the way, Subtract 6 million from the Xbox's install base then you have yourself a fair number as the 360 was out 1 year ahead of time.

So thats what? 13 million + 13 million is around 26 million (these are rounded up by the way)

versus Wii's 27 million... hmm ahh that seems like.. wow guess Wii user base would be larger than Xbox360 if you take out it's 1 year advantage over the PS3 & Wii.

But either way with that kind of math it's scary the difference when it actually hits 50% market share considering Xbox360 had a year head start.

More importantly gaming as a whole does not revolve around the current batch of home consoles. This newfound argument of the PS360 > Wii isn't applicable to the gaming world at large. Outside the 7th generation consoles you have the DS and PSP, the former of which dominates Japan's software charts on a routine basis. The 6th generation consoles, which includes the PS2 whose LTD sales roughly double all the 7th generation system's sales to date. Cellphone games. Retro gamers with entire collections of older titles they play. Cellphone games. The worldwide PC gaming market which ranges everywhere from PopCap games, to World of Warcraft, my late grandmother playing online bridge, obsessive lunatics who spend more time modding games then playing them, me screwing around on flash games RubangB recommends, to hundreds and hundreds of other niches out there.

Not to mention the gaming industry's continuing focus on re-releasing old titles. From remakes, to collections, digital re-releases on consoles and computers. Something that clashes with this assumption the majority are more interested in high-end graphics. Then there's what wrong with these sweeping generalizations that paint the HD console and Wii owners as single minded collectives. Suggesting everyone who owns the HD consoles because of their graphical capabilities, or there are no Wii owners interested in traditional gameplay.

Can't help but think we'll see more of this PS3/360 > Wii jargon as some people enter the bargaining stage. =

 You bring up a good point, you can go even further by comparing PC's to Gaming PC's.  Numerically more people play Puzzle, Classic, and Web Games than technilogically demanding games, though they might not "win" in terms of revenue and hours.

 



I would cite regulation, but I know you will simply ignore it.

I do agree that the Wii has been somewhat disappointing this generation. It's not because I hate Nintendo, or I think it's kiddy, or anything like that. I've actually been a pretty adamant Nintendo fanboy from NES to Gamecube, even though I owned the Sega Genesis and the PS1 & PS2. But, I've always wanted Nintendo to do better during the N64 and GC era. I've always called people ignorant when they labeled Ninty first party titles "kiddy."

When the Wii was released, I was pretty hyped as well about it. Sony was having this ultra-expensive console, I didn't know the 360 would have so many jRPGs judging from the original Xbox (which is why I waited a long time after launch to buy one). All of my other friends bought a Wii as quickly as they can because of all the hype. Months dragged and they were all still playing Wii Sports and Wii Play only. I thought Zelda: TP was on orders of magnitude better on the Gamecube because of the controls. I decided to get a PS3 and then a 360.

But once Brawl came out, I got the Wii the same day. But after a week, I just played that game on all of my friends' Wiis and mine just sat their collecting dust compared to the PS3 or 360. So I sold mine.

Frankly, I'm not seeing this mass migration lately of all the third parties scrapping HD development and going to the Wii, like people have been talking about on this site. All the games that I care about are being announced for the HD consoles, and that doesn't seem to be changing. Lost Odyssey, Infinite Undiscovery, Ninja Gaiden 2, MGS4, Tales of Vesperia, Final Fantasy XIII, Eternal Sonata, Blue Dragon, Little Big Planet, Gran Turismo 5, Uncharted, Mirror's Edge, etc.. Note - these are not all "Bald Space Marine" games that Wii fanboys like to stereotype HD console fans for playing.

Unless there is something really amazing that comes to the Wii to make me want to re-buy it, the two losing HD consoles have me covered.



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