So you would rather pay $469.99 for the same quality movies.

And those of you supporting either format are playing into Sony and Toshiba's hands. They both got plenty of money from DVD last time (Toshiba with most of the DVD patents and Sony with their movies and PS2 games on DVD), so they could do the same this time, so why didn't they?

The thing is that people don't like to throw all their TVs, disc players, movies, etc. just because the picure is nicer. Yet people DO like to take sides.

In other words, this format war is to make people pay attention to the formats, so people can have bragging rights, which they do see as a tangible value (sports fans, political hacks, and fanboys of all nerd aspects are proof of that). And unlike VHS vs Beta, dual players are possible when both sides "decide to compromise".

meh who cares.

although past history indicates sony's formats fail.

beta max
mini disc
umd

@ your mother

Someone already mentioned you can't directly compare cheap HD-DVD players and Blu-Ray players because of relevant difference in quality (support for 1080 resolution). Quality HDDVD equivalent costs the same.

BTW... longer I'm here the stronger feeling everything was already discussed.

 Well we don't all think the same things at the same time, so repetition of discussions is almost inevitable.

 But the reason that the PS3 users aren't buying movies in droves IS the format war!  If Blu-ray was all there was OR if the format war was decided,  I, and many other PS3 owners would start buying many more movies.

Blu-Ray is now outselling HD-DVD around 3:1 in both Europe and North America. For Japan it's more like 50:1, it will take a miracle for Toshiba and Microsoft to turn this around.

But why would we really want HD-DVD to win? Both formats use the same codecs, but Blu-Ray allows for higher bitrates. Blu-Ray discs are protected from scratching unlike HD-DVD discs, Blu-Ray discs can store more data per layer.

Most of the industry is and was behind Blu-Ray. Costs of both players and disc production is coming down rapidly.

In the past the Blu-Ray argument of it becoming the dominant movie format or not was often used as FUD against buying a PS3. IMO this would only really be a valid argument if only movies benefitted from the additional storage capacity, but that's not the case currently games like Resistance and Motorstorm already benefit from uncompressed 7.1 surround audio, Lair and many other future games will put the extra storage to some good use as well. If UMD for the PSP can easily survive why wouldn't Blu-Ray disc be able to do so as well nomatter what happens to the format with regard to movies? IMO XBox 360 HD-DVD users have a lot more to worry about as HD-DVD currently cannot be used to benefit any games, even if it could the currently sold drive would be pretty slow as it reads at half the speed of the PS3's Blu-Ray drive.

what the hell? Sony guys, you realise the exact same arguments you fail to see when we claim the PS3 is losing the console war, you use against HD-DVD adoption in the format war?

Neither battle is anywhere near over. It's a marathon, not a sprint. (etc etc). Blu Ray is looking in a good position right now but remember HD-DVD was looking like it was going to win before that. Anything can happen, and neither will win while the players are > $100

Can you maybe read the link you've posted, because as the author is explaining toward the end, things are going down that path.