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lol@Ninteno's demise

I think thats just wishful thinking on your part. Even when they aren't dominating, they've remained profitable.

 



im not sure anyone can do it just like how ninty did it this gen



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wartaal said:
eyetoy too name something, but at least Sony doesnt force it upon us.

Its true that in the last 10 years games havent changed much, but changing a controller doesnt change 1 thing.

All big nintendo ips are very similar to the GCN ones.
Wii fit and sports and just really shallow and simple games, but if you call this innovation i rather do without it.

 

You certainly have my permission. You may sit on the couch and mash your little buttons and wiggle your little sticks until the end of time. Of course if the new controller doesn’t, as you say, change anything then I wonder why you react so strongly.

The Eye Toy was innovative; I’m sorry they backed away and didn’t really do anything with it. Innovation doesn’t really mean much if you’re scared to use it. Nintendo bet the farm on motion control. That’s the courage to believe in your ideas.

And despite your dismissal the balance board is an impressive piece of hardware and I can already tell you that it takes games that use it to another level. But I realize that’s much to shallow to fool your discriminating taste. Of course I hope the head of physical therapy doesn’t read this because he fell for it.

One thing that cracks me up is the, $90 for a yoga mat, can’t believe people are buying it it’s a joke crowd. So far since I got it on the 21st, I feel better, I’ve lost a few pounds, my balance is better and I’ve learned my first yoga position. And I’ve enjoyed the games as well as Wii Ski.

If you think I threw away $90 to get all that, what do you think of spending $60 to drive virtually drunk in your virtual car to run over virtual prostitutes. If that sounds like a more sensible deal to you, then it probably is. The good news is you will probably grow up someday anyway.

@Happy Squirrel

I can't bring myself to understand how, I mean there isn't a simple way to define how. I don't want to understand how.

I mean wtf!? When I reread this entire thread it feels like I just slipped on a banana peel and fell up. This thread was clear a the begining, but the moment it turned into 'MKWii isn't a racing game' and 'if mario is in it it's a platformer' it all just went side ways.

I mean there is no rational explanation, the logic is clearly aggitative but it's still there, usually I mimic such actions with my friends when I just want to be an asshole, but I'm certain that you actually believe whole heartidly what your saying. (that's at disolute, refferencing happy squirrel)
I mean that's just something I'd look at from outside the noise and go wow, how the hell could that have happened?

I've gone through the whole semantical genre debate in the past, but to see someone actually come to the opposite conclsion regardless of the clear fallacy is amazing, it's like what seems wrong to me seems right to him... to each there own I guess.

This thread is fun though, but I think this is my last post as like I said before, I saw what type of mind set you have and I see it's not in my power to at least show you where what your saying is wrong, because to you it's right and vice versa.



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i just give my opinion how i feel about motion control, you start flaming me and you are the one replying strongly.
you are the one with problems my friend.

And about the mashing with buttons, its what we all did for decades but now nintendo has come up with motion sensing and its suddenly stupid and boring.



What a Fanboy topic!
Look at the market. I think we should ask who will die out first before Wii finishing it's finishing line?

I kid. I kid. DC. I kid. I kid.

You sound like Nintendo will die off when it become HD. Hey, try to survive in this war first are what they should focus now. If not, someone in this gen will become another DC again.

Em...DC was the first one to launch the console and it got the first online game among others. DC looked like someone in this generation now? Who is it? & Did DC win the war eventually or it just die off? Em...



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disolitude said:Please...you're like 8 hours late to say anything here that hasn't been said.

Arguing that nintendo is on the cutting edge of game making is like saying Home Alone was cutting edge movie making.


Sorry if I'm late to the party but I've been writing for a few hours and I've read all the posts and I still will have to disagree with you my friend although in the past I have often agreed. First I think your genre definitions are way too narrow. If you go through my game library I like and have owned and played many racing games, Auto Modellista, Colin McRae Rally, Ridge Racer and every version of Need for Speed and Burnout. But Mario Karts (all version) have alwaysbeen my favorite RACING games. If you want to call them something else be my guest. Call them a prune danish and it won't take away one bit of my enjoyment or their popularity.

But now, the definition of Cutting Edge,is being in the forefront of progress and innovation in its area and then Merriam Webster defines innovation as 1 : the introduction of something new 2 : a new idea, method, or device : novelty

I have seen a lot of nice refinement (higher resolution) more shading, better light effects but none of these qualify as anything new. They are later improved version of things that already existed. In fact I have only seen two examples of true innovation, something completely NEW and that is the Wiimote as a device and motion control as a method and the balance board as a device and Wii Fit as a method.

I exclude the DS since it just added a second screen.

You are welcome to disagree but I have so far seen nothing new from either Sony or Microsoft and quite frankly I found that surprising and rather disappointing. I remember that E3 when I first realized that the PS3 was predictably going for better graphics and that was all, I kept waiting for the other shoe but it never fell.


This is a well presented argument unlike most tonight...but I do disagree. Means of controls can be considered innovations but they become a routine within months and then they are no longer innovations. Wii sports was cool...and now we have wii fit which is revolutionary(like it or not) But so is rock band...on a scale that surpasses anything avaialble on the the wii as every accessory in rock band fits the gameplay...graphics are up to date...it has song downloads...online play...its basically perfect as is. Just like wii mote fits Wii sports perfectly and the white board fits wii fit. Now how about we start playing Gran Tourismo with the rock band drums...or we start playing gears of war with the guitar?

This is what wii is doing...its forcing a perepheral that works with 50% (works well with even less) of the games down our thorat and developers throats. Anyone designing a game has to consider how they will make the wii version stand out using the wiimote and this may not be something they want to do or that is part of their vision. And for what? To get same results as with a standard controller once the novelty of holding the wiimote is worn off?

People recomended to me that I try godfather on the wii as its revolutionary in terms of controls...the game is playable...thats it...just becuase a 3rd person game is playable using the wii mote its supposed to be revolutionary?

So I'll take my high budget games with great production values, pixel shaders and level design innovations as revolutionary any day over the same old games with new ways to control them. Sometimes there is no need to reinvent the wheel...cause the round one works just fine.

I see a game like portal revolutionary...



Wii makes playing games more interactive, meaning that you simulate motions in order to control the game, some may like it, some wont. It seems that a LOT of people are enjoying the new ways to play.

It feels better to control a gun by aiming directly at the screen rather than using a stick to move the cursor.

It feels better to turn a wheel rather than flick the stick to turn.

It feels better to swing a bat/a golf club or anything to mimic the motion the character does on the screen, than rather push a button.

There's a lot of things that can be done with the Wiimote, really infinite, but with that attitude of yours, they wont accomplish anything, good games require a lot of effort, not just input gimmick sell game, but rather make a clever use of the Wiimote like lately we have been seeing from 3rd and 1st party titles.



Proud poster of the 10000th reply at the Official Smash Bros Update Thread.

tag - "I wouldn't trust gamespot, even if it was a live comparison."

Bets with Conegamer:

Pandora's Tower will have an opening week of less than 37k in Japan. (Won!)
Pandora's Tower will sell less than 100k lifetime in Japan.
Stakes: 1 week of avatar control for each one.

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next gen all consoles will have sophisticated motion controls and will be in an affordable price range from the get-go