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sc94597 said:
SaviorX said:
@sc94597
"Dragon Quest is going to ds. After IX I think the series will go to the wii. "

I was aware that a DQ game was going to the DS, but I thoughta console version would be on the PS3 as well, hmm. My mistake. I know there were two games that couldn't be released in the same year, it was Final Fantasy XIII and ???........

Dragon Quest IX, square enix doesn't want two of their biggest games coming one year and then the next have nothing.


 They can always turn to releasing remakes of previous FF games. Or why not remakes of DQ games. I don't think they have tried that before.



totalwar23 said:
sc94597 said:
SaviorX said:
@sc94597
"Dragon Quest is going to ds. After IX I think the series will go to the wii. "

I was aware that a DQ game was going to the DS, but I thoughta console version would be on the PS3 as well, hmm. My mistake. I know there were two games that couldn't be released in the same year, it was Final Fantasy XIII and ???........

Dragon Quest IX, square enix doesn't want two of their biggest games coming one year and then the next have nothing.


They can always turn to releasing remakes of previous FF games. Or why not remakes of DQ games. I don't think they have tried that before.

They are making remakes of dragon quest.

http://vgchartz.com/news/news.php?id=1196 

 



sc94597 said:
SaviorX said:
@sc94597
"Dragon Quest is going to ds. After IX I think the series will go to the wii. "

I was aware that a DQ game was going to the DS, but I thoughta console version would be on the PS3 as well, hmm. My mistake. I know there were two games that couldn't be released in the same year, it was Final Fantasy XIII and ???........

Dragon Quest IX, square enix doesn't want two of their biggest games coming one year and then the next have nothing.


 Putting some truth to those Nov 21st DQIX rumors.



sc94597 said:
totalwar23 said:
sc94597 said:
SaviorX said:
@sc94597
"Dragon Quest is going to ds. After IX I think the series will go to the wii. "

I was aware that a DQ game was going to the DS, but I thoughta console version would be on the PS3 as well, hmm. My mistake. I know there were two games that couldn't be released in the same year, it was Final Fantasy XIII and ???........

Dragon Quest IX, square enix doesn't want two of their biggest games coming one year and then the next have nothing.


They can always turn to releasing remakes of previous FF games. Or why not remakes of DQ games. I don't think they have tried that before.

They are making remakes of dragon quest.

http://vgchartz.com/news/news.php?id=1196

 


 Well then, problem solved. They can release all of their main titles this year and remakes next year.



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OP: Your question is kind of like, in basketball, what's more important, # of shots attempted or % of shots made. The answer is: neither, really. If you take 1,000 shots but miss 'em all, you lose; if you only take 1 shot but hit, you have 100% and you lose.

What I think a prospective-publisher would look at is both (and more detailed data regarding market demographics, etc.). But the real point is that neither attach rate nor install base matter without the other, because "scoring" here is actual sales.



What matters most to publishers is actually the product of install base and attach rate. That would be units sold.



Entroper said:
What matters most to publishers is actually the product of install base and attach rate. That would be units sold.

That leaves out development costs, advertising, and other factors that can vary from platform to platform. I think at the end of the day all the publisher really cares about is Net Profit.



Publishers have fairly complicated models, that are a lot like the models created by insurance companies, in order to handle the risk associated with producing a game for a platform. These models take into account attach rate, userbase size, sales rate, the performance of similar titles (in quality, content and genre), and development costs.

Basically a system like the Wii that has a decent userbase that is growing rapidly, with a healthy attach rate and low development costs really has very little to worry about when it comes to third party support; until publishers start producing high quality games in popular genres that perform poorly on the Wii, I don't see any reason why someone would look at the numbers and refuse to produce a Wii game (in favour of an XBox 360 or PS3 game).



ClaudeLv250 said:
*bleu-ocelot* said:
Soriku said:
*bleu-ocelot* said:
FJ-Warez said:
*bleu-ocelot* said:
ikilledkenny said:
Install base. If a console is THUMPING the others, like the Wii, they want to put their games on it.

 

But why take the risks if no one is buying it?

No one is buying what???

Games are selling even if they are shovelware, the console is selling... which game with huge advertisement, huge budget is not selling???


 

Hmmm.....NMH!!



You DO know NMH is a VERY niche game right? It also never got much advertising. It is also a Suda 51 game. Suda 51 games don't sell very well, yet has sold 300k. NMH is the Suda's best selling game ever and he even had a part to commemorate the game's success. If it was on the PS3 or 360 it would have sold A LOT less. Maybe you should check up on your facts.

 

Having a party for 300k? yea... and i think NMH would have sold more on the PS3.

Why wouldn't they have a party for 300k? It sold a lot and they made a lot of money off of it. They're not goign to pretend that it did poorly because some angry nerd on the internet decided 1 million was the single benchmark for success.

At least we've moved on from people pretending NMH didn't sell, to pretending that it didn't sell enough.

 


No offense, but you seem to fit the definition of an angry nerd.

You just got off a ban, so you've been warned.