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colonelstubbs said:
So....many....numbers.....

Yeah, I want pies!



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ConsoleWeekly
3,337,041 (+46%)
1,725,316 (-3%)
1,297,860 (-14%)
1,145,696 (+5%)
476,896 (-5%)
380,024 (-12%)
105 (-17%)
Total

8,362,938

 

 

 

Nintendo Platforms total: 5,061,357

Nintendo Software: 3,119,198

Nintendo Third Parties: 1,942,159

 

 

MS Platforms total: 1,297,965

Microsoft Software: ~140,000 (not listed)

MS Third Parties: ~897,965

 

Sony Platforms total: 2,002,616

Sony Software: 342,112

Sony Third Parties: 1,660,504

 

Looks like 35% is more than 85%.

# lead to Revenue and Profit

% lead to flame wars and irrelevancy



I would cite regulation, but I know you will simply ignore it.

^

Nicely done, but isn't that WW for 1 week only, which is pretty much useless as some have sales boosts that they won't have in other weeks, that's why I did for the entire year.

Oh, and I'll add some cakes, but they won't be very good, as I've never learnt how to make graphs and such in excel. Any tips on how to improve is welcome.

Edit: Well, that worked out kind of well, and it only took 10 minutes. Enough pies for you now Galaki?



http://www.vgchartz.com/games/userreviewdisp.php?id=261

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Ok, lifetime (estyimated from existing VG chartz numbers)

No surprises here.

Nintendo Wii (Released November 06)

130,000,000 - 87,000,000 = 43,000,000 Third Party Software

2.52m per month

EA: +-7m

Activision: +-5m

Rockstar/2k/Taketwo: +-2m

Ubisoft: +-5m

 

Xbox 360 (Release November 05)

125,000,000 - 30,000,000 = 95,000,000 Third Party Software

3.27m per month

EA: +-15 million

Activision: +15m

Rockstar/2k/Taketwo: +12m

Ubisoft: +-10m

 

Sony PS3 (November 06)

54,000,000 - 16,000,000 = 38,000,000 Third Party Software

2.24m per month

EA: +-6m

Activision: +-5m

Rockstar/2k/Taketwo: +-4m

Ubisoft: +-4m

 

PS3, 360 Combined for EA, Activision, Rockstar/Taketwo, and Ubisoft are very large and would line up with the development we are seeing. Acti and EA have more capital so they can invest in both platforms heavily; which has paid off for both. Ubi and Taketwo must avoid expenditures (due to previous losses) and have existing franchises that fit in well with HD consoles and PCs. HD Consoles can pay off big for large to medium sized developers with existing franchises but can be risky for new, high budet IPs.

Wii has a very strong showing from Sega, Capcom, Lucas Arts, Atlus, Majesco(relatively); these companies have either existing family friendly franchises or no franchises. Small size of these companies also works well with Wii's lower development cost. Which would explain the support form those developers. Wi, as expected, seems to be a great platform for smaller developers but not for mid-sized companies with successful franchises that rely on graphics or online play.

THQ would be doing fine from their success with WWE, Sponge Bob, etc. on both HD consoles and Wii, but are heavily vested in Saints Row 2 (which may not do so well with GTAIV out).



I would cite regulation, but I know you will simply ignore it.

Regional Breakdown

Others

Total sales in Europe after week ending 24th May: 32.5M

On Wii: 15.7M

On Ps3: 9.4M

On X360: 7.4M

Market share software wise for Wii: 48.3%

Market share software wise for Ps3: 28.9%

Market share software wise for X360: 22.7%

1st party wise

Total 1st party sales in Europe after week ending 24th May: 13.9M

On Wii: 9.9M

On Ps3: 2.7M

On X360: 1.3M

Market share Wii: 71.2%

Market share Ps3: 19.4%

Market share 360: 9.35%

 3rd party wise:

Total sales: 18.7M

On Wii: 5.9M

On Ps3: 6.7M

On X360: 6.1M

Market share Wii: 31.6%

Market share Ps3: 35.8%

Market Share X360: 32.6%

 

Other facts

Total sales in Europe: 32.5M

3rd party total sales: 18.7M

1st party total sales: 13.8M

% of total is 3rd party: 57.5%

% of total is 1st party: 42.5%

 



http://www.vgchartz.com/games/userreviewdisp.php?id=261

That is VGChartz LONGEST review. And it's NOT Cute Kitten DS

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Interesting to see others seem to be higher 1st party percentages for PS360, it is probably due to the MS and R bundling for PS3 (and MS is still selling quite well know).
With those figures, many PS3 games are missing EU data, as are others, but it does represent the largest part of the market for PS3 so will effect it more



Interesting, so the Japanese don't like Wii third party games or 360/PS3 first party games.
That could potentially be an incentive for third party developers who make Japanese-centric games that don't sell well in other areas to choose the PS3 over the Wii.



We don't provide the 'easy to program for' console that they [developers] want, because 'easy to program for' means that anybody will be able to take advantage of pretty much what the hardware can do, so the question is what do you do for the rest of the nine and half years? It's a learning process. - SCEI president Kaz Hirai

It's a virus where you buy it and you play it with your friends and they're like, "Oh my God that's so cool, I'm gonna go buy it." So you stop playing it after two months, but they buy it and they stop playing it after two months but they've showed it to someone else who then go out and buy it and so on. Everyone I know bought one and nobody turns it on. - Epic Games president Mike Capps

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sinha said:
Interesting, so the Japanese don't like Wii third party games or 360/PS3 first party games.
That could potentially be an incentive for third party developers who make Japanese-centric games that don't sell well in other areas to choose the PS3 over the Wii.

 I think this is mostly due to the fact that M$ and Sony's studios mostly make action games (does this count Gears as a 1st party game because M$ pubished it (likewise with Resistance)?) and those don't particaularily sell well in Japan, so Sony is particular need to make some jRPGs, because last gen they had to rely of SE to make exclusives for them (FF X, X-2, XII, SO 3, KH 1 & 2)



^

Yes, everything that was published by Sony, Microsoft or Nintendo is counted as first party.



http://www.vgchartz.com/games/userreviewdisp.php?id=261

That is VGChartz LONGEST review. And it's NOT Cute Kitten DS

can't say i'm too surpised by the numbers - wii has had three big releases so far this year: SSBB, mario kart wii, wii fit. i can't think of any major releases by MS this year and i can only think of GT:P for sony. through in a bit of GTA madness and of course ps3/360 have much better third party %.

thanks for all the work oyvoyvoyv. xD