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@dib8rman

"what if Sony disrupted nintendo."

With what? The PS3 is already out. It isn't going to have some massive rebuild that could disrupt the Wii. The PS3 is already on the old path. The only way Sony could disrupt the Wii is with a PS4.



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Notice how microsoft seems to be really quite recently; in order to change your business model in the case of what they are doing you need to convince your investors, execs, developers and user base that this is how something can be done, it takes time to reshuffle your business structure. I wouldn't be suprised if microsoft is doing some R&D work to release their "silver bullet." what ever it is.

All I said was that was disrupter speak; how am I supposed to know with what, I haven't been following Sonys' reps enough to have a hint at what they are working on, all I know about them at the moment is Kill Zone 2.



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gebx said:
The 360 just doesn't get any love these days....

Cheer up, pal.



up to 2009 for wii looks ok: 70 million units sold by then. After that, the prediction gets a bit fruzzy.



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dib8rman said:
The graph is actually quite possible.

Sony's rep did say that they weren't viewing themselves as being in a position where they are competing with nintendo or microsoft.

Sounds like disrupter talk.

That chart shows a what if; what if Sony disrupted nintendo.

 No to me it sounds like "Shit, we're losing. How can we spin this?" talk.



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Viper1 said:
Tuulikk said:
I see Wii as the new Entertainment System, just like a DVD player has many types of movies and TV-series to buy and is easy to use, Wii is the same with games. A true Entertainment System is for everyone, and it will sell much and to all kinds of people.

At best it will be like PSP and DS in Japan, PS3 might match or succeed Wii in sales many times in the future, but not by much margin and it will never pass Wii at a strong lead.

I wonder, can any console really sell up to 100 000 000 this generation?

 Wii is far outpacing the PS and PS2, both sold over 100 million, so I don't see why Wii won't.


I don't know really. Maybe I'm afraid Wii will hit a invisible barrier at about 75 million as the market goes more towards HD consoles, leaving Wii with lower sales stopping at 80-90 million as an endnumber. Maybe much less. I'l be happy if that does not happens and maybe I'm afraid of nothing real. 100+ million would be nice.

Although, I think the most important thing is a fast selling console up to 50 million as it would have a nice impact on what games comes to Wii and the weakly gamesales.



The iiW stops selling in 2009 because an emulator for PS3 that can run Wii games hit the streets. So, buying a PS3 will enable you to play Wii games. Then, there is no point in buying a Wii.



This graph doesn't look weird at first... But then, if you add the actual data for 2005-2007, it does look stupid.



SpartanFX said:
HappySqurriel said:
narfwack said:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13772_3-9948454-52.html

 

They still believe the earlier prediction by Billy Pidgeon and even add a new chart.

 


The reason why this bothers me more than anything else is that they assume the PS3 will suddenly start selling like the Wii has been in 2009 ... The PS3 to date has seen massive price reductions, the release of the biggest game of the generation, and the victory of Blu-Ray and is still selling at less than half the rate they expect it to in 2009 and 2010. Where is the justification?

In 2009 the PS3 will still probably be $300 or more, Blu-Ray will be far from a well adopted format, Wii third party support will be exploding, and we may be in the middle of the largest worldwide ecconomic downturn in over half a century; why is the PS3 going to take off in this climate?


everything you said here is not true.

 

PS3 had only one price cut not "massice price ReductionS"(and that casue the weekly average to go up 2-3 times) .None of the big hitters have yet arrived(fist one is the MGS4).I am not saying these will casue the PS3 to explide but I m just pointing that your argument is not right(exagerated)

 

your argument is biased ,,,how do you know nintendo third party will explode?i m not saying it won't but we won't know that for now.


It's a pretty pointless argument as to whether the introduction of new (less expensive) models count as a price reduction; the fact is that the 60GB PS3 launched at $600 and was the main SKU (because Sony didn't produce many 20GB models), and now the 40GB PS3 is $400 and the main SKU which is a fairly massive price reduction if you want to 'Buy a PS3' ...

How do I know Nintendo third party support will explode? Because it makes business sense and we have already seen the begining of it. A larger userbase both means higher theoritical sales as well as a lower probability that your game will have unexpected low sales simply because there are more people to buy your games; at the same time the lower development costs and shorter development cycle of Wii games makes games far more profitable at the same sales level, and greatly reduces the risk of development. So far what we have seen from (most) third party publishers are 'quick and dirty' efforts that were started after they saw how successful the Wii is, and soon enough we should see the efforts of developers who have put more time and effort into their games.

Now my argument may (or may not) be exagerated, but I think it is foolish of anyone to predict sales of the PS3 at 20 Million units per year in 2009, 2010, 2011 and 2012 after how it has performed so far. I can accept an argument that (like the Genesis) the PS3/XBox 360 will be able to prevent seeing lower sales later in their life (like the N64, Saturn, Gamecube and XBox faced) because they're 'in a different market' but CNET's prediction is foolish ...

 



It actually looks like that with the complete data.