tombi123 said: If your going to list GTA4 expansions as a big 360 exclusive game, why didn't you list Tekken 6, SOCOM: Confrontation and Motorstorm 2 as big PS3 exclusive games?

This is a good point, as the novelty of GTA will have worn off by the time the expansions are released.  I don't think anyone is going to consider it a 9/10 game by then, anymore.

Imperial said: The quality of the PS3's exclusives is still superior to that of the 360's , take GoW2 out of the equation and you have nothing of interest to me on the 360.

Take out MGS4 and likewise.

 

edit:actually thats a lie 

NO! Firstly, Alan Wake, Halo Wars and maybe Splinter Cell have been pushed back into 2009. That's a pretty big blow to the 360's lineup.
Secondly, the PS3 has a lot of heavy-hitters- if 1 or 2 of them get pushed into next year, that doesn't necessarily stop 2008 from being the PS3's year. How can you expect all of it's big games to arrive in 1 year?

Also, you missed out Tekken 6, SOCOM: Confrontation and Motorstorm 2 along with lower-tier games such as Wipeout HD, Haze, Siren, Linger in Shadows, Disgaea 3 and Valkyria Chronicles. 8 Days and WKC could still arrive this year.

Anyway, we should wait until E3 is over before we start talking about this.

The_God_of_War said: NO! Firstly, Alan Wake, Halo Wars and maybe Splinter Cell have been pushed back into 2009. That's a pretty big blow to the 360's lineup. Secondly, the PS3 has a lot of heavy-hitters- if 1 or 2 of them get pushed into next year, that doesn't necessarily stop 2008 from being the PS3's year. How can you expect all of it's big games to arrive in 1 year? Also, you missed out Tekken 6, SOCOM: Confrontation and Motorstorm 2 along with lower-tier games such as Wipeout HD, Haze, Siren, Linger in Shadows, Disgaea 3 and Valkyria Chronicles. 8 Days and WKC could still arrive this year. Anyway, we should wait until E3 is over before we start talking about this.

WHOA!!!! When did Halo Wars get pushed back?

You just included things like PSN games, online-only games and sequels to mediocre launch titles in your so-called heavy-hitter line-up.  

Tekken 6 will be big, but lets not pretend the franchise has the quality or sales luster it used too.  Disgaea and Valkyria chronicles wont hold a candle to Infinite Undiscovery, Tales of Vesperia and Lost Odyssey. 

 

The_God_of_War said: NO! Firstly, Alan Wake, Halo Wars and maybe Splinter Cell have been pushed back into 2009. That's a pretty big blow to the 360's lineup. Secondly, the PS3 has a lot of heavy-hitters- if 1 or 2 of them get pushed into next year, that doesn't necessarily stop 2008 from being the PS3's year. How can you expect all of it's big games to arrive in 1 year? Also, you missed out Tekken 6, SOCOM: Confrontation and Motorstorm 2 along with lower-tier games such as Wipeout HD, Haze, Siren, Linger in Shadows, Disgaea 3 and Valkyria Chronicles. 8 Days and WKC could still arrive this year. Anyway, we should wait until E3 is over before we start talking about this.

No. Only Alan wake got pushed back into 2009. Splinter Cell is set for October and there's been nothing saying Halo Wars won't make this year. That card can be played both ways, because Heavy Rain, Afrika, Yakuza, White Knight Chonicles, The Agency and inFamous all look like they can easily slip into next year. We should look at each list as they stand currently, and not with the speculation that certain games MIGHT not make this year.

 

coolestguyever said: carlos710 said: I think the lineups from Nin, Sony and MS all look "weak" at the moment... we need to wait a couple of months (e3 or after e3) Nintendo = We don't know what they will do (perhaps kid icarus, animal crossing, pikmin... but we don't know for certain) Sony = LBP is a new IP. Resistance 1 was not exactly huge. And most of the other anounced games are new IPs too. MS = Fable & Banjo are big question marks... same with halo wars. Only Gears of Wars 2 is a given 2.80 million and counting, with a 12 million userbase isn't huge?

 lol is that huge to you ? 

A launch game that was the only good game for the ps3 when it came out... it was the must-get title on the ps3 for a long time... and still needed to get bundled to reach those numbers.

Sorry but no, thats NOT huge. 

starcraft said: The_God_of_War said: NO! Firstly, Alan Wake, Halo Wars and maybe Splinter Cell have been pushed back into 2009. That's a pretty big blow to the 360's lineup. Secondly, the PS3 has a lot of heavy-hitters- if 1 or 2 of them get pushed into next year, that doesn't necessarily stop 2008 from being the PS3's year. How can you expect all of it's big games to arrive in 1 year? Also, you missed out Tekken 6, SOCOM: Confrontation and Motorstorm 2 along with lower-tier games such as Wipeout HD, Haze, Siren, Linger in Shadows, Disgaea 3 and Valkyria Chronicles. 8 Days and WKC could still arrive this year. Anyway, we should wait until E3 is over before we start talking about this. WHOA!!!! When did Halo Wars get pushed back? You just included things like PSN games, online-only games and sequels to mediocre launch titles in your so-called heavy-hitter line-up. Tekken 6 will be big, but lets not pretend the franchise has the quality or sales luster it used too. Disgaea and Valkyria chronicles wont hold a candle to Infinite Undiscovery, Tales of Vesperia and Lost Odyssey.

Halo Wars wasn't shown at MS's event last week and it's probably been delayed to 2009 along with Alan Wait:

http://www.gamefocus.ca/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1969

SOCOM is online-only but it has a huge fanbase, nearly every PS3 owner I speak to is hyping this. Could be a system seller. And Motorstorm is hardly mediocre, it got 83% at GameRankings and is the biggest selling PS3 game (after GTA4 I think).

As for Tekken 6- IT WILL KICK ASS! I think Tekken 5 is the best yet, number 6 is a "heavy-hitter" as far as I'm concerned. Do not speak ill of Tekken!!!!!

As for the bolded part- I can't argue because I don't really know much about any of them. But I don't know why you think Disgaea 3 and V.C."won't hold a candle" to the other 3. 

 

erm i think ps3 has a better list of games for 2008 even though there has been a number of delays, however the ps3 as widest range of games from fun creative, simple, beautiful games like little big planet, buzz tv, and singstar volume 2. it also has must have action packed games like resitance 2, motostorm pacfic rift, haze, metal gear solid 4, socom confrontation, infamous and im hoping white knight story and final fantasy see at least a release in japan this year. The 360 on the other hand offers only really one genre of game and thats action with gears of war 2( no doubt about it will be great) and halo wars, and fable 2( maybe not action but wont appeal to a wide audiance)

starcraft said: The_God_of_War said: NO! Firstly, Alan Wake, Halo Wars and maybe Splinter Cell have been pushed back into 2009. That's a pretty big blow to the 360's lineup. Secondly, the PS3 has a lot of heavy-hitters- if 1 or 2 of them get pushed into next year, that doesn't necessarily stop 2008 from being the PS3's year. How can you expect all of it's big games to arrive in 1 year? Also, you missed out Tekken 6, SOCOM: Confrontation and Motorstorm 2 along with lower-tier games such as Wipeout HD, Haze, Siren, Linger in Shadows, Disgaea 3 and Valkyria Chronicles. 8 Days and WKC could still arrive this year. Anyway, we should wait until E3 is over before we start talking about this. WHOA!!!! When did Halo Wars get pushed back? 1) You just included things like PSN games, online-only games and sequels to mediocre launch titles in your so-called heavy-hitter line-up.   2) Tekken 6 will be big, but lets not pretend the franchise has the quality or sales luster it used too.  3) Disgaea and Valkyria chronicles wont hold a candle to Infinite Undiscovery, Tales of Vesperia and Lost Odyssey.

1) Yeah I wouldn't have included the PSN games. If you mean SOCOM as online only, it has a massive online following (as big as Halo). Motorstorm is not mediocre. It has a 80% score on gamerankings, putting it above Lost Odyssey. It is actually a fantastic game which suffers from lack of vehicles, load times and no split screen. 

2) Tekken 3 is considered the best fighting game of all time. It is unfair to hold other Tekken's to that standard of quality, because it is pretty much unachievable. Even so, every Tekken is a quality game, and Tekken 5 sold 1.5M. Plus Tekken: DR is one of the best selling PSN games, even at a high price tag of £14.99. 

3)  Disgaea 3 has a gamerankings score of 85%, putting it well above Lost Odyssey. Going by previous Disgaea scores, Disgaea 3 will likely stay at around 85%. You obviously haven't watched any VC trailers or walkthroughs (go to the official VC thread in the Sony forum), because if you had, you would realise it is one of the best SJRPG's in years. I haven't seen enough of IU or ToV, so its to early to call.

Given how you rate each is going to depend on your own gaming tastes/favourite genres its actually impossible to get a common answer to this question.

Now, if you want to ask which consoles library for 2008 will generate the most SW sales, or the most HW sales that's something else.

But as to which is best? What's better - blue or red?