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skip on 20 May 2008

the 360 was launched months before the first hddvd player was up for sale.

 

The Xbox 360 was released on November 22, 2005, in the United States and Canada

 

On March 31, 2006, Toshiba released their first consumer-based HD DVD player in Japan at ¥110,000 (US$934),[31] beating Blu-ray to the market by about three months.[32] HD DVD was released in United States on April 18, 2006,



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TheRealMafoo on 20 May 2008

HD-DVD never had a chance to win. Sony owns more then 50% of all movies ever made. They chose to go with BR, so BR was going to win.

MS was smart to not put all it's eggs in HD-DVD.

The worst mistake MS ever made was a 30% failure rate. If the 360 was reliable, the PS3 would never of had a chance to catch on. The 360 would have won (well, come in second).



tuoyo on 20 May 2008

Don't know how much benefit there would have been to 360 if it had HD DVD. What I do know is that for my sake I wish it had since Blu Ray would have had very very little chance of winning the format war. Instead consumers are stuck with inferior hardware, region coding, higher prices. Thanks a lot Microsoft and thanks a lot Sony.



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finalsquall on 20 May 2008

Hindsight's a bitch. But MS 's main focus has been online downloadable movie content. So who knows maybe they'll push that further - or at least for the 720.



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Rock_on_2008 on 22 May 2008
Squilliam said:
Rock_on_2008 said:
Discs are a dying medium. M$ were never interested in any of the HD formats really. They believe that downloads are the future. And from what Toshiba have cooking they will release a new non disc format for HD movies in the next 3 years. Since HD DVD death, The movie industry has twice reported that BLU RAY movie sales have gone down not up. BlU RAY will never sell even half of what DVD has, and thats because things will change before the next 3 years are up. People wont have that much of a chance to get their BLU RAY disc collection up or even started. For about 2 years now I have longed to get rid of discs and move to say 20 GB SD cards or Flash drives. Even now they are increasingly cheap to buy. And they are pretty limitless on space.No load times and are far more robust. Disc are incredibly old tech no atter what size Sony introduce.

^Thank you selnor for this contribution. Interesting news and I believe you could be right. A move to a no disc format would be a great move for next generation. Faster loading times and limitless storage space.

A move to completely online distribution would

A. Kill the specialist game shops.

B. Send the consoles packing out of retail stores.

C. Make the ISPs a lot of money

Bring on online distribution. Everyone wins except for the specialist game shops. Special game shops go the way of specialist CD stores- become extinct. Can not stop progress and continuous advancements in technology.

 



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selnor on 22 May 2008
Rock_on_2008 said:
Discs are a dying medium. M$ were never interested in any of the HD formats really. They believe that downloads are the future. And from what Toshiba have cooking they will release a new non disc format for HD movies in the next 3 years. Since HD DVD death, The movie industry has twice reported that BLU RAY movie sales have gone down not up. BlU RAY will never sell even half of what DVD has, and thats because things will change before the next 3 years are up. People wont have that much of a chance to get their BLU RAY disc collection up or even started. For about 2 years now I have longed to get rid of discs and move to say 20 GB SD cards or Flash drives. Even now they are increasingly cheap to buy. And they are pretty limitless on space.No load times and are far more robust. Disc are incredibly old tech no atter what size Sony introduce.

^Thank you selnor for this contribution. Interesting news and I believe you could be right. A move to a no disc format would be a great move for next generation. Faster loading times and limitless storage space.
I'm starting to like you Rock_on_2008. I think I miss judged you all this time. :)  

 



WEWdeadeye on 22 May 2008

I am pretty sure MS just jumped on the HD bandwagon to force Sony into a long, costly, drawn-out format war, while they could get busy making downloadable HD content a reality instead of a fantasy. Their support of the War not only cost Sony money, and completely killed any chance of HD movies having an adoption rate even close to DVDs (blu-ray is struggling STILL, even as I type this), all while MS is comes closer and closer to readying some sort of streaming, non-physical HD media, as opposed to the physical based media we have today. The future will most likely involve a move away from placing your disc in the tray AND hitting the play button, to just hitting play on your computer or a set-top box, with no trips to blockbuster/best buy, or 2-3 day waits for movies to come through the mail via Netflix.



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Rock_on_2008 on 22 May 2008

The XBox 360 has done really well and improved dramatically upon first XBox in both software and hardware sales. American sales have been amazing. XBox brand name is becoming well established in America and through out Europe. In such a short time MS is now challenging with Sony. 360 will end up finishing third but far from disgraced. overcoming adversity of early hardware issues and building up fans and followers along the way. Gears of War, Mass Effect and Bioshock franchises have all been successful and console exclusive to 360 but are also on PC. Amazing add on sales through XBox Live subscriptions up to 12 million, online DLC, XBox 1 games down loadable from XBox Live.

Next generation of consoles will be an even playing field and do not be surprised if next XBox owned by the mighty Microsoft could possibly pull off a console generation victory and surprise us all.