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Well if you have to play anything other that ports from the last generation and the same Nintendo franchises we have been getting from the N64...then you absolutely need an HD console.

If you want to experience online play as its meant to be ...you definitely need an HD console.

If you have a HDTV and dont want your eyes to hurt ...you definitely need an HD console.

 And there are a lot of games in HD consoles  that arent appearing on PC ...at least on PS3.



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Psssst Shio....SPORE isn't an exclusive game for the PC. It's also coming out on the Wii.



tehsage said:
Psssst Shio....SPORE isn't an exclusive game for the PC. It's also coming out on the Wii.

SPORE is PC exclusive. Wii, like mobile and DS, will get spin-off versions.

My specs are - Core2 Duo 2.4ghz, 4 gb ram, Vista 32, 8800gt

I play Crysis maxed at 960/600 (Haze resolution basicly) resolution on Very high.

It runs smooth for me.

The game looks great and its SO much fun. I like it more than 95% of all shooters that have come out this gen, even more than CODIV and HaloIII and RFOM. I love the immersion and gameplay! Its awesome, Im only just playing it though.. I waited until I got my graphics card - Which cost me $80 after I got a good deal buying it and selling the old one.



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Squilliam said:
My specs are - Core2 Duo 2.4ghz, 4 gb ram, Vista 32, 8800gt

I play Crysis maxed at 960/600 (Haze resolution basicly) resolution on Very high.

It runs smooth for me.

The game looks great and its SO much fun. I like it more than 95% of all shooters that have come out this gen, even more than CODIV and HaloIII and RFOM. I love the immersion and gameplay! Its awesome, Im only just playing it though.. I waited until I got my graphics card - Which cost me $80 after I got a good deal buying it and selling the old one.

 if you SLi the 8800GT you should be able to handle at what people here would call 1200p



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The PC/console debate is about as pointless as it is endless. They are two different demographics, with a degree of overlap that has been vastly increasing since the PS3 and 360 were released. Most of the big mainstream PC releases are published for consoles, and in the case of the 360, all of its big exclusives are eventually ported to PC.

In this respect, ithe 360 is the least "necessary" console of the three current, if the gamer has a decent PC capable of outperforming the 360. But... one of the main reasons for playing on the 360 is the online community specific to the platform. I'm referring to RL friends who game rather than random match ups. But this is enough for many to use the 360 before the PC.

The PS3 will always have its big exclusives that will never see PC ports. Wii or 360 exclusive players or PC players can say what they want about not caring about these titles, but the louder the protests, the more likely it's an issue of pride and envy rather than simple personal tastes.

The Wii will always have games that rely upon the motion control scheme and simple won't port well or at all to traditional controls. Imagine Wii Sports with a mouse and keyboard. No point at all. All those first party Mario releases will never be seen on any other platform, and even if they did, without the controllers, it's the difference between RE4 or MP on a pad vs. RE4 Wii or MP3.

The Crysis argument is getting old, and largely an issue of hardware envy. I played the demo (that plays fine on a PC at 1280x720, high visuals, 8xAA that cost about the same as a PS3, 360 and Wii combined) and honestly, as groundbreaking as the visuals are, the game itself is not compelling enough for me to want to play through the rest of it. I haven't paid $40 (which is ridiculously cheap for a game of this quality) to play it, because beyond the visuals (no point in even arguing that it doesn't look better than any game before it on console or PC), it just didn't pull me in.

PS3 port for Crysis? Even if it looked like Uncharted, it still wouldn't play as well, and the story wouldn't be as compelling, partly because the characters of Crysis are completely wooden. The vast majority of the Crysis experience lies in the graphics. If you're not playing on a rig that can optimize them, what's the point? The underlying game itself really isn't that great.


But as it's already been said, nobody "needs" anything when it comes to video entertainment.

I definitely didn't need to pick up a Wii, but I wanted to try Wii Sports then examine and break down how the control scheme worked to see how applications could apply in the future.

I already had a PS3 at that point, which was seeing plenty of use, but the dearth of games prior to late Q3 2007 meant that the only PS3 games I was playing were Resistance and Motorstorm. I bought some real clunkers before more games actually worth my time were released.

So it saw heavy use as a media player for BRDs and upscaled DVDs, plus some PS2 play time. But it was also my reason to buy a 1080p display, which has been worth every penny. I even PC game on it.



shio said:
 


If you right-click on his Crysis pics to view it, you can zoom them out.

Btw, I prefer these Crysis shots:

 


 You are not getting Crysis to look like that on any computer that does not cost you out the ass.  I have seen Crysis run on Quadcores, with dual 8800 GTX's or ultra's with atleast 4gb of fast gaming ram and it looks a lot worse then that. 



Griffin said:
 

 You are not getting Crysis to look like that on any computer that does not cost you out the ass.  I have seen Crysis run on Quadcores, with dual 8800 GTX's or ultra's with atleast 4gb of fast gaming ram and it looks a lot worse then that. 


 That statement reminds me something, it makes me wonder what mades people think that the PS3 or the 360 can run this game on high, 720p @ 30 fps??



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ssj12 said:
Squilliam said:
My specs are - Core2 Duo 2.4ghz, 4 gb ram, Vista 32, 8800gt

I play Crysis maxed at 960/600 (Haze resolution basicly) resolution on Very high.

It runs smooth for me.

The game looks great and its SO much fun. I like it more than 95% of all shooters that have come out this gen, even more than CODIV and HaloIII and RFOM. I love the immersion and gameplay! Its awesome, Im only just playing it though.. I waited until I got my graphics card - Which cost me $80 after I got a good deal buying it and selling the old one.

 if you SLi the 8800GT you should be able to handle at what people here would call 1200p


I would need 4x the graphics power at least to play at 1920/1200, since im pushing 4x the pixels. I would need... a GTX 280 as its currently rumoured to be called. Est features - 240SP, 40+ Texturing units - twice the ROPs 512bit interface and 1gb of ram. Then I would need to buy a second one most likely. (But the extra memory bandwidth and size would be sexy for enabling AA) Which I would need since the upscaling blurs the lines anyway, except if I play at a higher resolution.

Too bad I have an INTEL motherboard. SLI is a no go, until I upgrade or switch to the 4870 and Crossfire them. Thats unlikely, but if I get a good deal selling my current card...

It's too bad I won't be upgrading until next year when Core3 (Nehalem) is out. Its still up in the air whether or not Nvidia will make a decent chipset for it.  



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FJ-Warez said:
Griffin said:
 

 You are not getting Crysis to look like that on any computer that does not cost you out the ass.  I have seen Crysis run on Quadcores, with dual 8800 GTX's or ultra's with atleast 4gb of fast gaming ram and it looks a lot worse then that. 


 That statement reminds me something, it makes me wonder what mades people think that the PS3 or the 360 can run this game on high, 720p @ 30 fps??


They couldn't because - Not enough ram, not enough graphics power, and the CPU doesn't have the X86 out of order execution and other advantages like that. A decent PC nowadays spanks the PS3 in floating point and Integer performance.



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