@Shameless:

So basically, Wii is doing to PS360 what many people think consoles did to PC? And since when have HD Consoles been the "home" of the hardcore gamers?

PS: PC gaming has always been getting bigger.

Wii definitely blew away PS360, and I think next gen we will see cheaper, not very powerful consoles compared to PCs; and PC's will get even cheaper than they are now.
Games are reaching a plateau visually so when next gen comes, we won't need much more power to pull Crysis graphics.

Because it's new. After a while gaming needs something new. Games become copies, of old games. You feel you played it before, but when something new is added that makes a whole new area to explore in gaming.

 I'd rather not see that... It would be too much to bear.

The only reason why I would consider liking the HD consoles getting beat, is because of the fanbase of immature idiots that consider everything with realistic graphics and lots of pixels as hardcore gaming and call Mario kiddy and casual.

Your (OP) post also contains bullsh*t like that: "PS360 .... consoles which are entirely tailored and aimed at the hardcore gaming audience"

Let me explain to you that there are loads of hardcore gamers on Wii, simply because they, like me, grew up with Nintendo.
I absolutely hate gamers like you that think they have the judgement about who's hardcore and who's not.
Well let me tell you: I've finished the most hardcore game of the current generation and it's on Wii. It's called Fire Emblem. Please wake me up once you've finished it and I'll call you a man.

Other than that I have nothing against the HD consoles. I have lots of respect for creative developers that want to make a beautiful game. I don't want to see them fail, hell I'm waiting for RE5 to step in, but they actually caused it themselves by being so arrogant to completely forget about the normal person.

They'll buy shovelware on the Wii in droves, just to maintain more shovelware on the Wii, so they can claim the Wii is a shovelware haven. 

What you think is not how the industry is. I'll say it again, we're dealing with market expansion. This is not the end of gaming, casuals aren't threatening your future. Simply put, Nintendo is tapping a previously not well tapped revenue stream. Now it's well tapped.

I find it odd that there are some people who think that Sony and MS would deny a customer. The PS3 and 360 are made for anyone that will buy them to play games (or watch blu-ray). They aren't thinking casual/hardcore and neither should you. I'm not saying it doesn't exist because these things do exist. I'm saying it only matters because you think it matters. Anyone can and will buy a console for one main reason, to play games.

You're making pretty outlandish claims about a future that doesn't exist. What makes you think HD gaming has no place in the future? Could it be 31.5 Million HD consoles sold... could it be 6 million copies of GTA4 selling in 5 days. A game which is touted as innovative and is well known for it's insane budget. Could it be MGS4 which also had a crazy budget and is said to be innovative? Where are you coming up with the bunkum you just poured on us?

Lastly, Bruce Everiss did get one thing right recently. He said that HD games will start to follow the same pattern that movies have. You're probably gonna need a big budget and a lot of development time to make a profit. People expect more from HD games because they can look better and be more realistic. If there ever was a day when "hardcore" developers could cut corners and still make a ton of dough those days are long gone. It's going to become about budget, marketing and consumer appeal - just like the movies.

In the words of Third Eye Blind, "I wish you would step back from that ledge my friend."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwfAKFg-0-Y 

Guess I'm not hardcore enough to be on here ....shit I don't even own an HDTV yet.

I dont dislike the PS3 or 360 i play them but im happy that they are not doing so well because that forces those companies to change and adapt. Staying with only one market area the hardcore is bad for busniess. I like playing new and different things not the same shooter over and over again. I dont want a console that i cant play with a GF. I h8 the radical increases of prices for everything from last gen to this one, the up scale just for graphics and performance means art and stly is lost over for pretty picture and unorigniality. I think its good bc we have forgot what a game is and where it started from.

You suppose that core games will get less innovative once they get cheaper, that seems to be the exact opposite of true. Hardcore gamers demand expensive games, but they also demand convention. Stray too far outside of convention and you don't sell very well, thusly only cheap core games actually try to do something different. You can't really say that Halo 3 was innovative, or that GTAIV wasn't just a much bigger GTA3. Killzone 2 doesn't look to innovate so much as take what "hardcore" gamers have bought in the past, and make it better. COD4 only innovated as far as leaving WW2, which among the core crowd was a big deal. Now that's innovation!

Cheap games are the ones that do something different, and they are usually ignored and sell moderately if they are extremely lucky. Okami tried different, and probably won't sell half a million World wide between two consoles. Boom Blox tries different, it's something innovative and opens to a week of 25k. De Blob tries to be different and people could care less about it's existence. Killer 7 tried the road less paved with a bizarre artsy game, sold like fudgecicles from my ass. Team ICO may have critically acclaimed games, but they don't have million sellers.

Halo 3 is Halo 2 beefed up. Sells millions day 1. Smash Bros Brawl is an expanded Smash Bros Melee. Millions day 1. GTAIV is a bigger GTA3, 500 million in revenue as soon as it hits the shelves. Gran Turismo 5 is a prettier GT4, and even it's prologue has sold more than everything Suda51 has done combined.

Saying as core games get cheaper they will get stale is an extreme innaccuracy. The more money is invested in a game, the safer the company tries to play it. You can't invest 50 mil into something that may or may not sell.

So as I see it, yeah, I'm not going to mourn the death of games that cost tens of millions to make, are delayed for three years and then upon it's release is essentially something I've played before but better. I welcome "cheap" different games. And stuff like boom blox makes me love my wii, and if it continues to get the low budget weird games that frequented the PS2 then I will not complain in the least as it crushes it's HD counterparts.

As much as I don't agree with bashing, there is a damn good reason for Nintendo fans to gloat. And pretending this is out of the blue is still being in denial.

I remember before the Wii launch (but on another board) all the crap about how Nintendo should go third party, all the while completely refusing to acknowledge that Sega did it because they lost money, not because they were behind in sales.