I wonder if the author has made anything in this article by himself - all his arguments and even the exact wording was used before millions of times on several forums. All I can say about this article is "redundant and needless".

We don't need to start the discussion again (without any new points to discuss - this article hasn't been able to deliver any), for the outcome is already clear to everyone of us.

 @ Griffin )

 may I pre-order a copy of Colorzone ? when will it be released ?

I love reading threads where most everyone feels the need to reiterate the same things said by everyone else in different ways...

Yeah, it's quite enjoyable to read threads where people find new ways to say the same thing as everyone els ...

Seriously though, most people who are old enough can remember drooling over the screenshots of highly anticipated games which turned out to be average (or worse); its about time that we started to demand more from developers and stop hyping games based on what they look like.

griffin: I can guarantee you that a lot of people would really like a game like that. Kinda like 300 PG. =P

Of course that's not really what I mean.






Do you see it now?

I know its an old story but I do agree with it.

games need to start with gameplay first - graphics are then the level you want to aim for based on the game.

It's also important to understand that graphics can make a difference but can't change core gameplay.

Uncharted and GoW on 360 are both very good duck and cover shooters IMO - both play well and are engaging and deserve the praise they got. That both looked fantastic added to their immersion but it would only be gloss without the underlying gameplay.

It reminds me of the old argument about films - great script first, then shoot it. Of course all too often now its work out the action scenes and try and out CG the last film without worrying about story/dialogue...

 My turn.

Yoda - Great graphics do not a great game make.

So, again; we are all assuming that Killzone 2 will be the most horrible shooter to date with terrible gameplay and nothing other than good visuals (which are crap according to a few members in here).
I really hope this game turns out to be worth the wait, it'll be twice as savoury when A; I get a good game to play and,

B; People will shut the hell up about how terrible this game is one year before its release.

if you wanna talk all visuals and no gameplay, see Crysis, it is a prime example of what the OP is angling for here.

Seems to me most of these people who complain about how hd console gamers care about graphics and are oh so shallow then go out and buy the wii and tell everyone that metroid and mario galaxy are beautiful and can rival hd consoles in terms of graphics.

Honestly, I rarely see people mention that Killzone 2 will be awful but I see a lot of people point out that Killzone was a game that was hyped to be a 'Halo Killer' and turned out to be mediocre/average in practically every way except for visuals; many of these people (myself included) warned that Factor 5 could produce amazing visuals, and enjoyable flight sequences, but when it came to generating "New" gameplay had struggled in the past, so PS3 fans should not get too excited about Lair. Does this mean that Killzone 2 will be awful? No, but you should be very careful about hyping it too much unless you really enjoy eating crow.