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windbane on 03 May 2008
kenzomatic said:
windbane said:
kenzomatic said:
Username2324 said:
Just for anyone too lazy to read the entire thing:

He is crying about the gaming review system saying its unfair because GTA4 got a 10 and SSBB didnt. He thinks games should be rated on a completely different scale just for Wii because "casuals" don't want anything that hardcore gamers do.

Further more, he thinks the Wii is the pure gaming experience because the PS3 and 360 are too similar which makes them both crap.

And finally he closes with how great the Wii has done to differentiate itself from the PS2 no less, a last gen system, so to Nintendo, Well Done! You've managed to outdo a 7 year old console!

He does have a little bit of a point how does wii sports get all these BAFTA and score a 6 in some reviews.


BAFTA? Wii Sports is a very shallow game...


You have a problem with BAFTA?


Yeah, I don't know what it means.



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windbane on 03 May 2008
Grey Acumen said:
windbane said:
Grey Acumen said:

wartaal said:
basicly, the improvements gta 4 made from gta SA were bigger than ssbb did compared to even the original n64 smash brothers.
in almost 10 years nintendo just used the same basic formula with some minor tweaks. the next smash brothers will be very similar to the other three and nintendo will throw in some next characters > nintendo fanboys happy.


gta4 is pushing both consoles to its limits, therefore it will be having some minor errors that will soon be fixed hopefully.

great.... what are they? I've heard from so many people that the improvements made to GTA IV are huge. I haven't heard anyone actually list out ANYTHING other than "storyline and graphics"

Why don't you actually READ the reviews instead of commenting on how the reviewers are all incapable of being fair reviewers? The major problems in the other GTA games: aiming was terrible, graphics were subpar (compared to non-open world games). Those problems are not present in GTA (the graphics might not be CoD4 or Uncharted but they are quite good). The story is very good and open world is huge. Missions are fun. The game is 16-player online for the first time ever. Read the reviews for more details.

Uh, because I don't own either system that has GTA IV, nor have I played GTA III, there's no reason for me to read them for personal purposes, and i specifically stated such in the post. I then offered people the chance to reply with actual reasoning besides; "dur, you're a wii fanboy and are just hating on GTA IV!" rather than actually saying anything about the game they claim is getting bashed.

In fact, I still don't need to read the reviews because the game itself does not affect this article, but the reaction of people talking about it does. If I were to go in and say "brawl sucks" I would have 15 people listing out item by item exactly what features set brawl above other fighting games and also what improvements it has made from melee. You THINK that I am trying to say that GTA isn't a good game(even though I haven't) and it takes some 60 replies before anyone even attempts to put together a halfway decent list.
Even now you just have "world huge, story good, missions fun, problems gone" What makes it fun? Is it because the missions have block puzzles to solve? I love block puzzles! or is it because you bash people in the head without any real reason or repercussions? I don't find that stuff as fun. Oh wait gee, how do i know which "fun" my review score should reflect?
Apparently, I should just go ask one of the reviewers you put so much faith in. They must have this all under control and have developed a special number that looks like a 10, provided you like that type of game, and looks like some other number if you don't like that game.

makingmusic476 said:
While I agree that GTAIV did not deserve 10s across the board (9.5-9.8 would've been better), the entire premise of your argument is flawed. This statement is 100% false, and I'm surprised nobody has yet contested it's validity:

Comparatively, from what I've heard, GTAIV is much the same as GTA III, but with improved story and enhanced visuals, yet still has issues such as aggravating pop in and difficult vehicle handling.

[finally someone lists out some specifics, it only took 2 pages]

It's validity can hardly be contested since that IS what i've heard of the thing. You're the first person to actually list out any specific concrete improvements. That's why I told people to bring out their own assesment of the game and whatnot.

 

 


Heard from who? Fox News? They LOVE that line "some say..." to make their point more valid. If you read reviews maybe you would be more informed.



kenzomatic on 03 May 2008
windbane said:
Yeah, I don't know what it means.


British Academy of Film and Television Arts

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BAFTA

Anyways this is what I was reffering to. It just seems odd some of the scores were so low givin all the awards.

Wii Sports has been the recipient of multiple awards. At the 2006 E3, it won the Game Critics Award for "Best Sports Game". 1UP.com listed it as the "Best Wii Game" and "Most Original Game" in their "Best of E3 2006" feature.IGN awarded it "Best Sports Game of 2006". Time magazine listed the game as the number one game of 2006 in their list of "Top 10 Video Games of 2006". Wii Sports won Famitsu's 2006 "Innovation Award". Electronic Gaming Monthly awarded it "Best Multiplayer Experience" in their 2006 "1Up Network Awards". At the 2007 Interactive Achievement Awards, Wii Sports won "Outstanding Achievement in Game Play Engineering","Outstanding Achievement in Game Design", and "Outstanding Innovation in Gaming". In 2007, the game won the "Innovation Award" and "Best Game Design" at the Game Developers Choice Awards, and won "Grand Prize" in the entertainment division of the Japan Media Arts Festival.[53] At the 2007 BAFTA Awards, Wii Sports won in six out of the thirteen categories: Casual, Gameplay, Strategy & Simulation, Sports, Innovation, and Multiplayer.



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windbane on 03 May 2008

Best Sports game? Completely undeserved. Best Wii game of 2006? Not much to choose from in that 1 month. Top videogame of 2006 from TIME: come on.

The game is very shallow. It is 5 mini-games. The "innovation" was motion control in console gaming.



Leni on 03 May 2008

hoe many GTA IV threads i'm i going to see in 1 day??

lol.....it seems that most gamers use xbox360....



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Super Smash Bros Brawl: 1161 1357 5188
Mario Kart Wii: 1633 4506 4319
PES 2008: 1633 5820 0347
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Onimusha12 on 03 May 2008

Stop making threads that put the Wii on the frontlines of the GTAIV phenomenon.

The only controversy regarding this game is the fight between the 360 and PS3 fanboys over who got the better version, just ignore the few trolls like Leo-J who are claiming the Wii is doomed and let the two other fanbases fight eachother over who got the best game.

This is not helping the image of the Nintendo community here.



makingmusic476 on 03 May 2008
Onimusha12 said:
Stop making threads that put the Wii on the frontlines of the GTAIV phenomenon.

The only controversy regarding this game is the fight between the 360 and PS3 fanboys over who got the better version, just ignore the few trolls like Leo-J who are claiming the Wii is doomed and let the two other fanbases fight eachother over who got the best game.

This is not helping the image of the Nintendo community here.

 Leo-j got perma-banned. ;_;

:P 



windbane on 03 May 2008
Onimusha12 said:
Stop making threads that put the Wii on the frontlines of the GTAIV phenomenon.

The only controversy regarding this game is the fight between the 360 and PS3 fanboys over who got the better version, just ignore the few trolls like Leo-J who are claiming the Wii is doomed and let the two other fanbases fight eachother over who got the best game.

This is not helping the image of the Nintendo community here.

You know you are on the wrong side of an arguement when the Nintendo fanboy police comes in to call off the dogs!



windbane on 03 May 2008
makingmusic476 said:
Onimusha12 said:
Stop making threads that put the Wii on the frontlines of the GTAIV phenomenon.

The only controversy regarding this game is the fight between the 360 and PS3 fanboys over who got the better version, just ignore the few trolls like Leo-J who are claiming the Wii is doomed and let the two other fanbases fight eachother over who got the best game.

This is not helping the image of the Nintendo community here.

 Leo-j got perma-banned. ;_;

:P 


Are you serious? What for?



Exblackman on 03 May 2008
windbane said:
Best Sports game? Completely undeserved. Best Wii game of 2006? Not much to choose from in that 1 month. Top videogame of 2006 from TIME: come on.

The game is very shallow. It is 5 mini-games. The "innovation" was motion control in console gaming.

Hey it is was the best sports game since it was the most innovative sports game since none of the others  have change drastically in several years(especially madden).Top video game of 2006 Again,most innovative game of that year which usually what the Times pick since it a magazine of the general public not hardcore gamers.



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