^How many PS2's failed because of poor quality controls?

luinil said: ^How many PS2's failed because of poor quality controls?

So many that Capcom's Shinji Mikami railed on them for what he called planned obsolescence.

 

PS2 units produced prior to 2003 have a higher failure rate than units produced during and after 2003; usually the laser gets misaligned at the very least (as happened with my old-model PS2).

Incidentally, the PS2's production peak in 2002 of 2.2 million per month appears to coincide quite closely with the Wii's current peak production rate of 2.4 million per month. Both are occurring during the console's second year of life on the market. The question remains if there will be a call for further production increases of the Wii, and unlike past hardware iterations, the answer to that question cannot be effectively gaged.

Sky Render, it was technically the 3rd year since the PS2 launched in March 2000.

   Ok NinjabreadMan, Nintendo is incredibly greedy and out for pure profit. I guess I'll go sob to myself while I play countless enjoyable hours on my Wii.
   How dare they do this to me, give me the same pleasure in gaming on the Wii, for less cost, as I get on my more expensive Xbox 360. My Xbox 360 created by the generous non-profit Microsoft, who was just so good to me in giving me the same amount of gaming pleasure that Nintendo did at a higher cost, and annual Xbox Live Fee.

You do not seem to read what I wrote, the GBA was selling similar numbers to the Wii until week 60 according to this forum. But seriously even if there wasn't this would be a stupid argument.



Bah Apple sells 20 million iPods in a Christmas QUARTER.

I am really surprised about all of the excuses. I am pretty sure that Nintendo has its reasons. Perhaps they didn't want to invest too much for the possibility that sales could go down. Perhaps increasing supply would mean they wouldn't have as much profit per unit. I don't know. But there is nothing particularly hard about increasing production for the Wii as far as we know.

All the main components are commodity. The chips are in a pretty old transistor size, the drive is standard, I am pretty sure that the motion sensors are not exactly NASA technology. Of course they will have some financial reasons. I just do not understand why Wii fanboys are so willing to forgive them for keeping the price up artificially.

It isn't artificial pricing if there is still demand.

If they do not produce enough to satisfy demand they are keeping up the price. If they do it because they cannot increase supply its fair. If they do it because they make more profit by not satisfying demand they are increasing prices artificially.

Which is not per se a bad thing many goods work this way. Diamonds for example are not very rare but a oligopoly of companies keeps supply down and price up. I am more surpised over the defense force action around it.

Kyros said: I guess you can't, then. You do not seem to read what I wrote, the GBA was selling similar numbers to the Wii until week 60 according to this forum. But seriously even if there wasn't this would be a stupid argument. What makes this unique is the simple fact that no product has maintained this level of supply/demand in a very long, long time. Bah Apple sells 20 million iPods in a Christmas QUARTER. I am really surprised about all of the excuses. I am pretty sure that Nintendo has its reasons. Perhaps they didn't want to invest too much for the possibility that sales could go down. Perhaps increasing supply would mean they wouldn't have as much profit per unit. I don't know. But there is nothing particularly hard about increasing production for the Wii as far as we know. All the main components are commodity. The chips are in a pretty old transistor size, the drive is standard, I am pretty sure that the motion sensors are not exactly NASA technology. Of course they will have some financial reasons. I just do not understand why Wii fanboys are so willing to forgive them for keeping the price up artificially.

Apple sells 20 million in a quarter with new models, colors, etc...   Not the exact same product for 18 months.

I already told you why production couldn't be ramped up and you're incorrect about the tech...again.  Most chipsets prior to 2008 were 130 nm.  Wii is 90 nm as is the GPU.    The accelerometers from AD and STM are used in many very expensive high tech devices.  The MoSys 1t-SRAM is very high end RAM.  The disc drive is one of the only in the world that is slot loading and accepts 2 different sized discs.  The Mitsumi Wi-Fi is actually a highly specialized Linux Broadcom 4813 chipset.

 

You just don't want to admit that the Wii is actually pretty damn high tech.

 

@Kyros


Well, selling 20M Ipods a quarter is completely different. You sell the ipod, he downloads some songs, and you're done. The Wii is a much more advanced electronic, and has lots of small parts. Nintendo still manages to keep a low cost, in fact, Nintendo is, unless I am mistaken, currently earning more than twice of Apple.

Dang, just saw Viper's post, so no need for second paragraph, well written Viper!