BengaBenga said: Call me cynical, but Sony fans do have strange ways. 1. I find it hilarious that THE must have game for PS3 doesn't run in HD, while one of the main attributes for its believed superiority has always been 1080p resolution. Halo 3 has been bashed without merit for its 630 resolution. 2. All of a sudden the most important thing is less pop-in and better framerate. I totally agree with this, but when it's mentioned that all quality wii games have a stable 60fps framerate and no pop-in or flaws like that, the answer is: "yeah, but it's low-res" ???

Yes, it's quite funny to see how hypocritical fanboys are (remember the Halo 3 640p case?). However, it should be said that I agree with PS3 fanboys this time. Pop-in is much worse than lower resolution. It's pretty obvious this wasn't a trade-off that Rockstart decided, they just didn't have the skills or time to improve the engine. I also don't understand why no optional installation is given on the 360.

Of course some of them would almost say the opposite if it was the other way, so this post shouldn't in any way be seen as me praising PS3 fanboys.

 

i already said this to an other thread . The PS3 version renders to 630p and upscales to 720p.

Conclusion . The 360 version is the best.

BengaBenga said: Call me cynical, but Sony fans do have strange ways. 1. I find it hilarious that THE must have game for PS3 doesn't run in HD, while one of the main attributes for its believed superiority has always been 1080p resolution. Halo 3 has been bashed without merit for its 630 resolution. 2. All of a sudden the most important thing is less pop-in and better framerate. I totally agree with this, but when it's mentioned that all quality wii games have a stable 60fps framerate and no pop-in or flaws like that, the answer is: "yeah, but it's low-res" ??? I'm not against the PS3 in any way, but the hypocrisy among SOME PS3 fanboys is absolutely stunning.

Ooooh burn.

gorgepir said: Well I went over the thread where he originally posted the findings and he seems to be right. While I realize this game does not come to the Wii, (which is too bad because I would've got it for the Wii but is not good enough to justify a new console purchase), all the Sony fanboys that say that it is worth the smoother frame rate are wrong, because a lower resolution can have a higher frame rate than higher resolution. Can both the HD and the 620 versions "look" the same? I am sure they can, but even if the inferior 620 version looks better, doesn't this prove something that the more powerful machine (supposedly PS3) might not be soo powerful? If this is true (and it looks like it is) between this, the popups in Xbox 360 version, I think it is funny that it has so many 10s and is being called the best game ever built by some. And this is ignoring the fact that sometimes the game freezes up like Bully.

*cough* PS3 version *cough*

Rockstar responded about the issue, they've advised those having issues should erase the data and re install it... no word on if that works yet

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=134790

 

@BengaBenga

Right on, hopefully that will shut them up for a while

LOLZ this is too much i will get the 360 version now:D

@ NJ5

Halo 3 was a first party 360 exclusive, GTA IV is a 3rd party game with development lead on the 360 platform.

Nevertheless the PS3 version looks better and runs better than the 360 version. It's a great game, nomatter if the guy at B3D was right or not. I bought the God of War games which were designed for the PS2 (576 lines rendering natively) for my PS3 because they are IMO outstanding games, this game is outstanding as well (if you like the gerne).

Games designed for the 360/PC using Microsoft's recommended practices, porting issues can be expected while porting to the PS3 without major game engine redesign. Rockstar hints they will be able to "crack it" in time on the PS3, they still haven't although they now feel comfortable with the PS3.

For games designed for the PS3, no porting issues should be expected. Actually 360/PC versions will benefit from better game engine design.

Games designed exclusively for the PS3 can be pushed much further though (note the recent Ghostbusters dev comment stating they would have been able to do twice as much on screen if there wouldn't be a 360 port).

@ gebx

I have a 60 GB PAL PS3, luckily no issues so far.

@MikeB: Fine enough in general, but that has nothing to do with what I was saying.

Yeah I'm not so sure what's so funny about the Halo 3 case :P That game probably had a bigger budget, and was EXCLUSIVE, and made from THE HEAVENLY BLESSED WITH MAD SKILLZ BUNGIE ~trumpets blare~. This is a multi-plat made by Rockstar of all companies, as mentioned before was lead designed on the 360, if one game this gen was NOT GOING TO BE ABOUT INSANE GRAPHIX, I would imagine this to be it no o.O?

Laughable that it's 620p on the PS3? Sure :) But at least if Rockstar couldn't utilize the SPE's to they're fullest, they went with the safe route. And as a result of such made a cleaner game (which I thought was going to be a sloppy mess to be honest on the PS3 xD ). Halo 3 has ZERO excuse. I'll give Rockstar a get out of jail free card :P

ChronotriggerJM said: Yeah I'm not so sure what's so funny about the Halo 3 case :P That game probably had a bigger budget, and was EXCLUSIVE, and made from THE HEAVENLY BLESSED WITH MAD SKILLZ BUNGIE ~trumpets blare~. This is a multi-plat made by Rockstar of all companies, as mentioned before was lead designed on the 360, if one game this gen was NOT GOING TO BE ABOUT INSANE GRAPHIX, I would imagine this to be it no o.O? Laughable that it's 620p on the PS3? Sure :) But at least if Rockstar couldn't utilize the SPE's to they're fullest, they went with the safe route. And as a result of such made a cleaner game (which I thought was going to be a sloppy mess to be honest on the PS3 xD ). Halo 3 has ZERO excuse. I'll give Rockstar a get out of jail free card :P

I'll tell you what's funny as you don't see it yet.

What's funny is this (exaggerated for effect):

Halo 3 at 640p on 360: "HAHA it's not even HD, the 360 sucks and can't produce true HD graphics! If it was on the PS3, it would run at 1080p, 120fps, make french toasts and cure cancer all at the same time"

GTA IV allegedly at 630p on the PS3: "Who cares about resolution, it's not important anyway!"

If you don't see the hypocrisy yet, I can't help you any further :P In the end, it's just another day in fanboydom, nothing unexpected here.