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SvennoJ said:


ICE has deported over 540K people since Trump took office, over 70K in Ice detention camps. (Only 5% to 14% have convictions for violent or serious crimes)

Immigration laws should be enforced. I'm all for vastly increasing the number of legal immigrants who come to my country and giving them a path to citizenship. But this idea that ICE is evil simply for enforcing immigration laws, or that the sudden enforcement of immigration laws is a sign of a dictatorship, is silly. Sure, did ICE shoot some innocent people? Yep. But the REGULAR COPS kill innocents every day. And that's a much bigger warning sign of a dysfunctional democracy than mere deportations. 

Sorry, I'm sure this isn't the thread for that discussion but I'm so tired of political extremes in my country. Apparently, we can either ban all Latinos from America or completely dissolve any sort of border enforcement. Those are the two choices offered by both parties. And both are ridiculous. Anyway I'll make a thread on it and repost this over there. Or find the existing thread on it. 

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Cerebralbore101 said:
SvennoJ said:


ICE has deported over 540K people since Trump took office, over 70K in Ice detention camps. (Only 5% to 14% have convictions for violent or serious crimes)

Immigration laws should be enforced. I'm all for vastly increasing the number of legal immigrants who come to my country and giving them a path to citizenship. But this idea that ICE is evil simply for enforcing immigration laws, or that the sudden enforcement of immigration laws is a sign of a dictatorship, is silly. Sure, did ICE shoot some innocent people? Yep. But the REGULAR COPS kill innocents every day. And that's a much bigger warning sign of a dysfunctional democracy than mere deportations. 

Sorry, I'm sure this isn't the thread for that discussion but I'm so tired of political extremes in my country. Apparently, we can either ban all Latinos from America or completely dissolve any sort of border enforcement. Those are the two choices offered by both parties. And both are ridiculous. Anyway I'll make a thread on it and repost this over there. Or find the existing thread on it. 

Any good you think Ice is doing, is forfeit when they murder American citizens.



Cerebralbore101 said:
SvennoJ said:


ICE has deported over 540K people since Trump took office, over 70K in Ice detention camps. (Only 5% to 14% have convictions for violent or serious crimes)

Immigration laws should be enforced. I'm all for vastly increasing the number of legal immigrants who come to my country and giving them a path to citizenship. But this idea that ICE is evil simply for enforcing immigration laws, or that the sudden enforcement of immigration laws is a sign of a dictatorship, is silly. Sure, did ICE shoot some innocent people? Yep. But the REGULAR COPS kill innocents every day. And that's a much bigger warning sign of a dysfunctional democracy than mere deportations. 

Sorry, I'm sure this isn't the thread for that discussion but I'm so tired of political extremes in my country. Apparently, we can either ban all Latinos from America or completely dissolve any sort of border enforcement. Those are the two choices offered by both parties. And both are ridiculous. Anyway I'll make a thread on it and repost this over there. Or find the existing thread on it. 

Do you support ICE going door-to-door and demanding to see people's papers if they are brown or have an accent?



Davy said:

I am not right-wing in politics but i don't have problem U.S. bomb any country that helps fascists Putin And Chinese Goverment.
They oppress and kill many people.

US ICE literally kills innocents in the US. US supports the genocide israel is doing. And one of the first things israel and US attacked in iran was a girl's elementary school. Hundreds of innocent children killed. No side is good but US is the worse one here. 



Just a guy who doesn't want to be bored. Also

sundin13 said:
Cerebralbore101 said:

Immigration laws should be enforced. I'm all for vastly increasing the number of legal immigrants who come to my country and giving them a path to citizenship. But this idea that ICE is evil simply for enforcing immigration laws, or that the sudden enforcement of immigration laws is a sign of a dictatorship, is silly. Sure, did ICE shoot some innocent people? Yep. But the REGULAR COPS kill innocents every day. And that's a much bigger warning sign of a dysfunctional democracy than mere deportations. 

Sorry, I'm sure this isn't the thread for that discussion but I'm so tired of political extremes in my country. Apparently, we can either ban all Latinos from America or completely dissolve any sort of border enforcement. Those are the two choices offered by both parties. And both are ridiculous. Anyway I'll make a thread on it and repost this over there. Or find the existing thread on it. 

Do you support ICE going door-to-door and demanding to see people's papers if they are brown or have an accent?

No. I support ICE going after employers, landlords and the government officials that issue driver's licenses to illegal immigrants. If you aren't suppost to be in this country then anyone harboring you with a job, housing, or a driver's license should be arrested and charged. That would be a lot faster than trying to just knock on someone's door "because they are brown". The best way is to go after the people who enable illegals, not the illegals themselves. 



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Cerebralbore101 said:
sundin13 said:

Do you support ICE going door-to-door and demanding to see people's papers if they are brown or have an accent?

No. I support ICE going after employers, landlords and the government officials that issue driver's licenses to illegal immigrants. If you aren't suppost to be in this country then anyone harboring you with a job, housing, or a driver's license should be arrested and charged. That would be a lot faster than trying to just knock on someone's door "because they are brown". The best way is to go after the people who enable illegals, not the illegals themselves. 

Ice doesn't do any of that, they aren't going to arrest Trumps billionaire business owners.  You're thinking of Homeland Security, and they have existed long before Trump.

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Eagle367 said:
Davy said:

I am not right-wing in politics but i don't have problem U.S. bomb any country that helps fascists Putin And Chinese Goverment.
They oppress and kill many people.

US ICE literally kills innocents in the US. US supports the genocide israel is doing. And one of the first things israel and US attacked in iran was a girl's elementary school. Hundreds of innocent children killed. No side is good but US is the worse one here. 

It's Israel's MO, Trump is doing Netanyahu's bidding.

https://news.cgtn.com/news/2026-03-02/Seven-medical-centers-in-Iran-hit-by-U-S-Israeli-strikes--1Lb9NdXdM8E/p.html

Seven medical centers in Iran hit by U.S.-Israeli strikes

Seven medical facilities across Iran, including hospitals and emergency stations, were targeted in joint attacks by the United States and Israel on Monday. A reporter from China Media Group (CMG) has learned that the strikes resulted in casualties, including at least two emergency medical personnel.

These attacks follow an escalation on Sunday, when the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) launched a new wave of airstrikes against Iran. By Sunday evening, continuous explosions were heard in the Iranian capital, Tehran. The IDF later confirmed that the Israeli Air Force had completed a round of strikes on Tehran involving more than 100 fighter jets.


https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israeli-strikes-hit-hospital-tehran-witnesses-tell-reuters-2026-03-01/




That's sure is helping the people of Iran...


From CNN

Civilian casualties: As of Monday afternoon ET, at least 742 civilians have been killed in Iran, including 176 children, HRANA said. More than 900 civilians have been injured, it reported. At least 85 were killed in the past 24 hours, the group said, and it is verifying hundreds more reported deaths.

Damage: There are also reports of damage to religious buildings and homes in the last 24 hours. Among them, a mosque in Karaj, a city near Tehran, several residential buildings, a governor’s office in the south of the capital, and the Shahid Bahonar Pier in Bandar Abbas on the Strait of Hormuz, according to the group. Iran also claimed damage to hospitals in Tehran.

Military installations: Among the military targets hit in the past 24 hours are the headquarters of the Kurdistan law enforcement command and the Kurdistan border guard command center in the western city of Sanandaj, HRANA reported. An air base in Isfahan and an army base in Tehran were also damaged, according to the group.


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SvennoJ said:
Hardstuck-Platinum said:

It's different. Iranians have had no quality of life for decades and now, their currency is worth nothing because of government policies. Americans still have quality of life and a functioning economy, regardless of Trumps actions. That might change in the future as trump gains more power, but as of now they are not comparable. You don't realise how bad life is inside Iran, Trumps and Bibi's bombs cannot do anything worse to them than they have already suffered, and they know that, and that why they love the US and Israeli military's. 

The country is divided. There's 90% of the country who want regime change,  but there's still 10% who are loyal to the ayatollahs. The vast majority want regime change though and there is nothing that America or Israel's bombs can do that's worse than what they've already experienced from the ayatollah regime. 

The economic hardship and their currency not being worth anything is because of American government policies. Stranglehold sanctions for decades even when Iran was complying with Nuclear agreement. Now the US is strangling Cuba (again). Is Cuba building nukes too?

This is Iran as well




Iran has an estimated homeless population of 130K (1.4%), US an estimated 770K (2.3%) experienced homelessness in 2024.
ICE has deported over 540K people since Trump took office, over 70K in Ice detention camps. (Only 5% to 14% have convictions for violent or serious crimes)
The US is arresting people for criticism of the government and Israel's government as well.

Maybe you don't realize how bad it is in the US...


Trump's approval rating is also below 30%, the vast majority if Americans want regime change as well.

So I guess China should bomb the US to help the Americans?

No-one has been killed by the government in USA just for singing and dancing. In Iran they have because it's a strict Islamic rule and singing + dancing is Haram in Islam. No-one has been hung from cranes in the USA, but in Iran they have by their tens of thousands. They are not remotely comparable and if you think they ae you are extremely out of touch. China bombing USA would make Americans experience something worse than they most have before. USA bombing Iran cannot do that, bombs are the least of their worries. Their government has killed far more than Israel or US bombs have. 

Look, I know the USA isn't doing this to "save the Iranian people". They want the oil, but saving the people is just coming as a nice bonus. Why would you want them to live under a strict dictatorship where people have died for as little as singing and dancing? Also, the thumbnail of that video is ABSURD. If a Women dressed like that Iran she'd be AT BEST imprisoned, but highly likely she wouldn't be seen again



This orange guy and his crew of clowns couldn't run a lemonade stand, let alone a country. Meanwhile, Bibi Nutinyahoo has been wet-dreaming about this for 40 years. Makes you wonder what kind of blackmail a tiny country like "Isrehell" has on President Oompa-Loompa and his band of scam artists.

I want to clarify. I didn't vote for this orange idiot. I'm so sorry for the innocent people effected by this. Especially the students in the all girls school in Iran.



Don't expect U.S.A to surrender easily the world leadership on the Chinese Communists.
They try to control energy resources now that Russia stopped exporting Gas and Oil to Europe.
Venezuela and Iran will be controlled by U.S.