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Zkuq said:
Eagle367 said:

Its actually not dishonest cause US has the most advanced tech in the world so they have the capability to not miss. They have accurate tech and hit what they wanted to hit. And you are ignoring two things.

1) They have hit other schools and hospitals too. 

2) It was a double tap on the same location.  If it was a mistake,  how did it happen so accurately twice? You telling me US didn't course correct after the first hit.

And thats besides the fact of US-Israel hitting pil sites which caused the black clouds in tehran and will cause acid rains in iran, Afghanistan, pakistan, tajikistan and western china 

It's still a mistake if the mistake happens in determining the target - they hit where they intended to but not what they intended to. Regarding the double tap, based on what I could find quickly, it sounds like it was struck again so soon that the US didn't necessarily have enough information to realize it wasn't a military target after all. Please do correct me if I'm wrong though, because it was a fairly quick check.

Regarding other schools and hospital, I'd have to know more about them. I'm inclined to think the US is averse to strike them unless they think they have 'valid' targets as well. As far as I know (and I could be wrong), striking them (or at least hospitals) is illegal anyway, so it's not any better regardless of whether there are so-called valid targets in them, but at least it's still probably not bombing them to terrorize the populace. It's still very bad but not as bad as it could be.

I just don't think the US has a motive to terrorize the general populace. The US wants a regime change, and they've shown signs of wanting the people of Iran to overthrow the regime. I'm sure the US is being reckless in their strikes as always, which I really dislike, but I have no reason to believe they're striking civilian targets just because. And to be clear, I don't support the attacks against Iran, I think they're just plain wrong and should never have happened.

I don't believe a word they say so no, i don't buy that it was a mistake. They have attakced hospitals and residential areas in iran as well. Plus the rain of oil they did. Its not some unbelievable,  out of the ordinary, one time thing from them. They do attack civilians judt because. Its part of their modus operandi. Look at what they doing and did in gaza, west bank and Lebanon and syria.



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Given the fact that Iran's new leader had his mother, father, wife, and one his children killed in the initial strike, I can't see Iran being open to any sort of cessation of hostilities any time soon. It looked like the GCC had convinced Iran to stop firing upon them, but then Trump spouted off at the mouth on "Truth" Social and that deal went up in literal smoke. As far as any war crimes go, the last 3 years has shown the world that International Law means absolutely nothing.

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As President Trump gives conflicting statements about the length and objectives of the war he launched with Israel against Iran, fears are growing that the conflict could continue to expand throughout the region and beyond. Lawrence Wilkerson, retired U.S. Army colonel and former chief of staff to Secretary of State Colin Powell, says the U.S. and Israel are committing wanton "war crimes" in Iran.

"We have bombed civilians relentlessly. We have bombed a school. We have bombed a hospital," says Wilkerson, who also suggests Western media outlets are downplaying the extent of the damage in Israel and how successful Iran has been in defending itself.

"This is a war with long legs. Trump has completely misinterpreted it," says Wilkerson. "The only one who's interpreted it correctly is Bibi Netanyahu, and I think he's ready to use a nuclear weapon, should it become as bad as it looks like it might right now, because Iran has not even began to shoot its most sophisticated missiles."



SvennoJ said:
Chrkeller said:

No it isnt and is a great example of anti US mentality.

Fact: power plants need 2 to 5% enriched U-235.

Fact: iran has over 400 kg of 60% enriched U-235.

Fact: enriched U-235 above 10%, much less above 50% has one purpose and one purpose only.

And a this information doesn't come from the US, it comes from an international recognized body, IAEA.

And this, for me, proves the point of this thread (and many others) being anti US.  

Iran absolutely, irrefutable and undeniably were buildinf nukes, full stop. 

As has been explained before, Iran kept the door open to a path to nukes, yet by fatwa were not allowed to actually pursue nukes or other WMD. Nuclear enrichment is allowed by the IAEA as well. It was monitored and negotiated over the maximum level. However Trump tore up the agreement and Israel attacked Iran last year making sure the IAEA would be expelled.

US/Israel got their wish now as the loophole in that fatwa was an existential crisis allowing the pursuit of nuclear devices. Thus Israel/US have removed the remaining obstacle for the IRGC to go ahead and start building dirty bombs and further enrich that U-235.

https://ciaotest.cc.columbia.edu/journals/irfa/v4i2/f_0029607_23960.pdf

It is concluded that the commitment undertaken by Iran via the Fatwa, is, in some important respects, more comprehensive and more long-lasting than that Iran has undertaken under the NPT.

Fact: US/Israel activated the loophole (existential crisis) and murdered the Ayatollah standing in the way of the IRGC to make WMD.


This has nothing to do with anti-US mentality, stop playing the victim.

To the person with the most posts in this thread are you currently anti-USA?  Just a straight question. 



Trump said he bombed Iran on the counsel of Jared Kushner, Steve Witkoff, who claimed that Iran would attack "us" first. 

https://x.com/AFpost/status/2031171120364400785

Such unbiased counsel 



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The_Yoda said:
SvennoJ said:

As has been explained before, Iran kept the door open to a path to nukes, yet by fatwa were not allowed to actually pursue nukes or other WMD. Nuclear enrichment is allowed by the IAEA as well. It was monitored and negotiated over the maximum level. However Trump tore up the agreement and Israel attacked Iran last year making sure the IAEA would be expelled.

US/Israel got their wish now as the loophole in that fatwa was an existential crisis allowing the pursuit of nuclear devices. Thus Israel/US have removed the remaining obstacle for the IRGC to go ahead and start building dirty bombs and further enrich that U-235.

https://ciaotest.cc.columbia.edu/journals/irfa/v4i2/f_0029607_23960.pdf

It is concluded that the commitment undertaken by Iran via the Fatwa, is, in some important respects, more comprehensive and more long-lasting than that Iran has undertaken under the NPT.

Fact: US/Israel activated the loophole (existential crisis) and murdered the Ayatollah standing in the way of the IRGC to make WMD.


This has nothing to do with anti-US mentality, stop playing the victim.

To the person with the most posts in this thread are you currently anti-USA?  Just a straight question. 

Would that hurt your feelings?  Generally most Canadians don't have a good opinion of the USA at this time, in fact a lot of our allies don't  We chose our fate, and just have to hope we still have some friends left when the USA finally pivots from the this dark era in USA history.



The_Yoda said:
SvennoJ said:

As has been explained before, Iran kept the door open to a path to nukes, yet by fatwa were not allowed to actually pursue nukes or other WMD. Nuclear enrichment is allowed by the IAEA as well. It was monitored and negotiated over the maximum level. However Trump tore up the agreement and Israel attacked Iran last year making sure the IAEA would be expelled.

US/Israel got their wish now as the loophole in that fatwa was an existential crisis allowing the pursuit of nuclear devices. Thus Israel/US have removed the remaining obstacle for the IRGC to go ahead and start building dirty bombs and further enrich that U-235.

https://ciaotest.cc.columbia.edu/journals/irfa/v4i2/f_0029607_23960.pdf

It is concluded that the commitment undertaken by Iran via the Fatwa, is, in some important respects, more comprehensive and more long-lasting than that Iran has undertaken under the NPT.

Fact: US/Israel activated the loophole (existential crisis) and murdered the Ayatollah standing in the way of the IRGC to make WMD.


This has nothing to do with anti-US mentality, stop playing the victim.

To the person with the most posts in this thread are you currently anti-USA?  Just a straight question. 

I'm anti Trump, anti MAGA, anti US foreign policy. 

The US does many things right but the US government needs to stop pretending to be world police, judge, jury and executioner.



Eagle367 said:
Zkuq said:

It's still a mistake if the mistake happens in determining the target - they hit where they intended to but not what they intended to. Regarding the double tap, based on what I could find quickly, it sounds like it was struck again so soon that the US didn't necessarily have enough information to realize it wasn't a military target after all. Please do correct me if I'm wrong though, because it was a fairly quick check.

Regarding other schools and hospital, I'd have to know more about them. I'm inclined to think the US is averse to strike them unless they think they have 'valid' targets as well. As far as I know (and I could be wrong), striking them (or at least hospitals) is illegal anyway, so it's not any better regardless of whether there are so-called valid targets in them, but at least it's still probably not bombing them to terrorize the populace. It's still very bad but not as bad as it could be.

I just don't think the US has a motive to terrorize the general populace. The US wants a regime change, and they've shown signs of wanting the people of Iran to overthrow the regime. I'm sure the US is being reckless in their strikes as always, which I really dislike, but I have no reason to believe they're striking civilian targets just because. And to be clear, I don't support the attacks against Iran, I think they're just plain wrong and should never have happened.

I don't believe a word they say so no, i don't buy that it was a mistake. They have attakced hospitals and residential areas in iran as well. Plus the rain of oil they did. Its not some unbelievable,  out of the ordinary, one time thing from them. They do attack civilians judt because. Its part of their modus operandi. Look at what they doing and did in gaza, west bank and Lebanon and syria.

Are you talking about Israel now? Isreal is way worse than the US in my books, precisely because they do all the things you mentioned all the time, all the while leveling cities and oppressing Palestinians in general (which, of course, the US is also responsible for in no small part because of their ridiculously strong support for Israel).



Did the US use AI to determine targets in Iran like the girl school? 

According to the Journal, US military command used the tools for intelligence purposes, as well as to help select targets and carry out battlefield simulations.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/mar/01/claude-anthropic-iran-strikes-us-military

Who runs the AI companies? 

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Zkuq said:
Eagle367 said:

I don't believe a word they say so no, i don't buy that it was a mistake. They have attakced hospitals and residential areas in iran as well. Plus the rain of oil they did. Its not some unbelievable,  out of the ordinary, one time thing from them. They do attack civilians judt because. Its part of their modus operandi. Look at what they doing and did in gaza, west bank and Lebanon and syria.

Are you talking about Israel now? Isreal is way worse than the US in my books, precisely because they do all the things you mentioned all the time, all the while leveling cities and oppressing Palestinians in general (which, of course, the US is also responsible for in no small part because of their ridiculously strong support for Israel).

I believe they are one thing.  Israel is US's attack dog and its gone insane.  But the US didn't pull the leash, it let israel go wild. And i don't think dems would have stopped the israeli regime either based on past data. Thats why i say US-Israel. 



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