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MJ was beginning to flip on the tribe. Talked about them too much:

"Jew me, sue me. Everybody do me. Kick me, kike me."

He wrote a pro-Palestine song as well: "Palestine, Don't Cry" and collected memorabilia of a certain person. 

He was Kanye before Kanye.

The accusations came just in time to discredit him before he could spill the beans. 



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I wouldn’t be so quick to believe that article piece. The Sun was part of the media lynch mob that was out to get Michael. Putting his name next to Hitler’s is a guaranteed, sure fire way to sell copies.

And just to add some context for those lyrics to They Don’t Care About Us. He was comparing himself to the jews, “jew me” means ‘don’t treat me like a jew.’

I am the voice of everyone. I am the skinhead, I am the Jew, I am the black man, I am the white man. I am not the one who was attacking. It is about the injustices to young people and how the system can wrongfully accuse them. I am angry and outraged that I could be so misinterpreted.



PAOerfulone said:
LudicrousSpeed said:

Claims isn’t the right word. A claim is something like, the Steam machines will be immensely successful. That’s a claim. Michael Jackson being a kid diddler isn’t a claim, it’s just a statement of fact.

We’ve seen and read all the evidence. We know about his settlements out of court, sleeping in beds with young boys, underage pornagraphic material in his house, all the testimony from victims, etc. It’s not really a question of evidence, it’s more a question of whether you’re too emotionally attached to the music and persona to see reality. I am not too attached, apparently you are. That’s unfortunate, but you see it all the time with celebrities.

What evidence? Stories from former security staff and maids who were sued for theft and defamation and LOST? Descriptions of his private areas that didn’t match the photographs? Pornographic material that was taking out of its sealed bag by the prosecution and given to the accusers so they can put fingerprints on them and say Michael presented it to them? Where was all this evidence during the ‘05 trial - Y’know, the one where he was acquitted and cleared in near record time because the prosecution’s case was so laughably pathetic they had absolutely nothing on him?

As for the ‘93 settlement. That’s the ONLY thing you bring up that I can actually understand. Why would he settle if he was innocent?

I’ll tell you why. He never wanted to settle, his ill-advised legal team, his concert promoters, as he was on tour during that time, and his insurance company pressured him to settle because they didn’t want to lose millions upon millions of dollars on cancelled tour dates, promotion, and merch and record sales, in order to fight a CIVIL case that could have taken God knows how long and led to financial losses FAR higher than the final settlement figure was. And yes, I say civil case, because the criminal one was never filed. Because once Evan Chandler, the father of the first accuser, Jordan Chandler, got his money, they ran for the hills and didn’t even bother with pursuing criminal charges. 

Now, if the question can be asked “Why would Michael Jackson settle if he was innocent?” The question can ALSO be asked “Why would the parent of the child who went through this traumatic experience, accept a payout instead of following through with the fullest extent of the law to put this creep away for good and ensure he never hurts another child?”

Especially when California state law at the time allowed it so that the civil case could be filed before the criminal one.

You understand what that means, right? They could have gotten their money AND sent him to prison where he could have gotten the chair, the chamber, or a life sentence! Talk about a win-win! So why didn’t they? That makes absolutely no sense. 

Really gets the gears turning doesn’t it? The only logical explanation is the Chandlers wanted no part of a criminal case, even though DA Tom Sneddon was BEGGING them to file one. Because they knew they’d get obliterated and promptly laughed out of court. Just like Gavin Arvizo and his family did in ‘05. And just like Wade Robson and James Safechuck - Two more accusers seeking monetary compensation rather than justice. And speaking of Gavin Arvizo - when the time came for the ‘05 trial  - The original accuser, Jordan Chandler, was never to be found because he refused to testify.

And as for the "sleeping in beds with young boys" lunacy. 

First of all - They never said he slept in the same bed as boys - Even if he did, that doesn't make him a pedophile. Weird as hell? Absolutely. Pedophile? Absolutely not.
The story was that he slept in the same ROOM as boys. And yes, boys did sleep in Michael Jackson's bedroom... His two-story, duplex-sized, bigger than a mid-class suburban home and had three bathrooms - bedroom. Michael's bedroom was bigger than my entire house. And bigger than YOUR entire house, I'm willing to bet. Yeah, boys slept in Michael's bedroom. So did their parents; Their siblings; Entire families; Many of the Jackson family members, including his own nieces and nephews like Taj (Tito's son) and Brandi (Jackie's daughter) and family friends, including Lionel Richie's daughter. (But we'll ignore her and Brandi, because girls, including his own family or family friends sleeping there doesn't fit the narrative. ;D) They would sleep in the master bedroom upstairs while Michael would sleep on the floor in a sleeping bag with witnesses there to watch them because THE FAMILIES THEMSELVES insisted on sleeping there and Michael was suspicious of them. A bedroom for Michael Jackson was not the same as a bedroom for you or me. Saying Michael was a pedophile because he slept in the same room as boys is like saying my dad was a pedophile because we slept in the same house.

And you want to talk about testimonies? How about that Macaulay Culkin? A guy who has NO financial incentive to go after Michael Jackson - Macaulay doesn’t need Michael’s money, he’s got his own money. He’s doing just fine for himself. He has no incentive to falsely accuse Michael Jackson. He also has no reason to continue to defend him except - GASP… It’s the right thing to do. What a concept, right?! And Culkin’s defense alone completely decimates the testimonies of said former security staff who claim they witnessed or allege he was molested by Jackson. A defense Culkin maintains to this very day. 

You want to talk about emotional attachment? You seem hellbent on maintaining this “Michael Jackson was a pedophile” narrative despite every piece of evidence, unedited footage, and court transcripts resoundingly saying he wasn’t. You never bothered to mention the alleged victims names. You only seem fixated on Michael Jackson. Almost like the accusers in question don’t matter and them seeking justice - Almost like it could be anything else, not necessarily molestation. It could be tax evasion, murder, decapitation, cannabilsm, almost anything else and you’d buy it hook, line, and sinker because it’s Michael Jackson.

And you seem to share a distinct trait amongst all MJ Guilters insist on maintaining it despite all the evidence… A trait where they… They WANT it to be true. Like they WANT these people to have been molested so that they can say “Lol! I was right! Suck it just like MJ forced those little boys to suck his dong! Lol!” And other appalling and vomit-inducing language like that to uphold their belief that Michael was a pedophile…

Which raises very serious and alarming questions about their morals and sanity.

Who really doesn’t want to see reality here?

No offense but I got a paragraph into this pedo defense and then scrolled and saw eleven more paragraphs and nope’d out. A for effort though.

Its ok, you can listen to Thriller guilt free.



LudicrousSpeed said:

No offense but I got a paragraph into this pedo defense and then scrolled and saw eleven more paragraphs and nope’d out. A for effort though.

Its ok, you can listen to Thriller guilt free.

For someone who calls himself LudicrousSpeed, you sure are slow and lazy.

Alright, I'll abridge it down as much as possible, to the purist of human instinct so even you can understand.

If you were a parent and that was your kid, would you go to the media and a civil lawyer to try and make Scrooge McDuck levels of hush-money? Or would you want to kill the son of a bitch and leave him in a pool of his own blood, then refrain from doing so and go to the police and a criminal lawyer to ensure that fucker gets the chair, the chamber, or a permanent cell with the key melted?

Or in the case of '93 - BOTH?

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PAOerfulone said:
LudicrousSpeed said:

No offense but I got a paragraph into this pedo defense and then scrolled and saw eleven more paragraphs and nope’d out. A for effort though.

Its ok, you can listen to Thriller guilt free.

For someone who calls himself LudicrousSpeed, you sure are slow and lazy.

Alright, I'll abridge it down as much as possible, to the purist of human instinct so even you can understand.

If you were a parent and that was your kid, would you go to the media and a civil lawyer to try and make Scrooge McDuck levels of hush-money? Or would you want to kill the son of a bitch and leave him in a pool of his own blood, then refrain from doing so and go to the police and a criminal lawyer to ensure that fucker gets the chair, the chamber, or a permanent cell with the key melted?

Or in the case of '93 - BOTH?

Doesn’t have anything to do with speed or laziness. I’d have to have absolutely nothing to do in life to bother engaging a discussion about a pedo on that kind of level.

As a parent, I’d never leave my kid with a guy who admits to sharing beds with kids and has gay kiddie porn lying around. So there’s that. If your defense is that people in power (the parents) did shady things to enable an abuser, well no shit, it happens all the time.



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LudicrousSpeed said:
PAOerfulone said:

For someone who calls himself LudicrousSpeed, you sure are slow and lazy.

Alright, I'll abridge it down as much as possible, to the purist of human instinct so even you can understand.

If you were a parent and that was your kid, would you go to the media and a civil lawyer to try and make Scrooge McDuck levels of hush-money? Or would you want to kill the son of a bitch and leave him in a pool of his own blood, then refrain from doing so and go to the police and a criminal lawyer to ensure that fucker gets the chair, the chamber, or a permanent cell with the key melted?

Or in the case of '93 - BOTH?

Doesn’t have anything to do with speed or laziness. I’d have to have absolutely nothing to do in life to bother engaging a discussion about a pedo on that kind of level.

As a parent, I’d never leave my kid with a guy who admits to sharing beds with kids and has gay kiddie porn lying around. So there’s that. If your defense is that people in power (the parents) did shady things to enable an abuser, well no shit, it happens all the time.

That's only part of the argument if you even bothered paying attention and getting out of your echo chamber. 

And you CONTINUE to ignore every rebuff and counter I've presented to every claim not because you don't have the time, but because you don't have the capacity or the proof to give your argument merit. 

It's not because you don't want to engage in a discussion, it's that you CAN'T engage in discussion. Because it would reveal just how little you know and how foolish you've been to believe such a stupid narrative in the first place. While we're at - Would you be interested in a bridge in San Francisco I put up for sale?



You’ve gone on about corrupt police and lying parents and blah blah. You’re just making excuses for a predator who abused kids. Say whatever you want about me, I am not defending a pedo. I think I come out ahead.



LudicrousSpeed said:

You’ve gone on about corrupt police and lying parents and blah blah. You’re just making excuses for a predator who abused kids. Say whatever you want about me, I am not defending a pedo. I think I come out ahead.

Based on what proof?

You're the one making the accusation. You have to provide the evidence. I'm not the one runnign for the hills when presented with the counterargument. No, you're not defending a pedo. You're advocating for the witch hunt of a dead man who can no longer defend himself from the crimes he has long since been cleared. 

14 counts - FOUR of them were misdemeanors:

Not. Guilty. On. Every. Single. One.

You say he's a pedo because you WANT him to be a pedo. You WANT them to be true. Which says FAR more about you than it does me or him.



Yes, the biggest pop star in the world was cleared of charges. He’s as innocent as OJ and Casey Anthony I guess.

I can provide evidence but you’ll just hand wave it away with pedo defense nonsense.

MJ paid off numerous accusers. You: but but it was his legal team!

MJ had porn lying around and naked images of boys. You: uh uh the cops put the kids fingerprints on there!!

MJ spent weeks sleeping in the same bed with little boys. You: but but the parents!

MJ had a security system with cameras and sounds alerting to anyone approaching his bedroom door. Staff in his home saw him abusing children. You: but but it’s normal to have alarms for people walking to your door! And those staff people are just lying!!

Again, it’s pedo defense nonsense. It’s cool, man. You can still watch the Super Bowl halftime show guilt free. Just don’t preach down to others while you are literally defending a kid diddler.



Excuses. Excuses.

Aw, the tired OJ argument. There’s a saying “No two cases are the same. No two people are the same.” One has nothing to do with the other.

Who are these “numerous” accusers you speak of outside of the Chandlers? Did he pay the Arvizos? Did he pay the Robsons? Did he pay the Safechucks? Did ANY of them pursue a criminal case before a civil one?

If he had child pornography, then why wasn’t it submitted into evidence during the trial and why didn’t the FBI - Who investigated him for 13 years - Ring the bell on him?

Yes, the parents ARE accountable if something did happen or for putting their pursuit of money over their children. That’s not the “gotcha” you think it is.

You’re right, there were security systems and cameras all over the place at Neverland - So why weren’t they confiscated and checked during the surprise raid of Neverland in 2003? Surely that would have produced the incriminating footage they needed ?

Those staff you say claimed to have seen him abusing children? One of those boys they claimed to have seen abused? Macaulay Culkin! Guess who testified in Michael’s defense in ‘05 when he didn’t have to and continues to defend him to this day even though he doesn’t have to? And Culkin is just one of many who still defends Jackson to this day.

Got anything else?

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