Group A: 9 families making 22k each, struggling to put food on the table 

Group B: 1 family making 200k, owns two houses. 

Conservatives -> they should pay the same rate, it's only fair!

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Fact, the top 50% pay 97% of taxes.

This is not a fact. Federal income and capital gains taxes are only a subset of overall taxes. If you include FICA, SUTA, FUTA, sales taxes, state income taxes (many have non-graduated rates; my state is a flat 3.07% for example), local income taxes, and now tariffs the top 50% are definitely not paying 97%. 

The U.S has a pretty progressive income tax system, but this is balanced out by all of the other taxes. 

The most costly social programs that benefit the bottom 50% have a flat or regressive tax (FICA is income capped for SS) that funds them. 

Families making 200k don't own two houses.  Now you are just being silly.  I guess that is what happens when you don't have an argument.  

Also the average US salary is 39k.... per person.  Not 22k per household.  

Can't wait to see what you make up next.

Fact, the top 50% pay 97% of taxes.

Liberals-> pay your fair share so others can have free stuff!!!!

I was obviously talking about income, but fair.  SS and state are a percent, so high income earners are paying more.  Property tax is based on home value, so high income are paying more.  Sales tax is a percent so high income via more expensive items are paying more.  

6.5% of 150k is more than 6.5% of 50k... in fact 3x more.  

The bottom 50% are paying a fraction compared to the top 50%, sorry that is a fact.

The solution to all the problems can't be "steal money from others."  

And the top 10% of Americans aren't making 200k on average either. 

It's a constructed hypothetical. It is how most arguments get made. 

I'm sure when you heard about the Twin Paradox, you told the professor it was impossible for rockets to go that fast and that he was an idiot. 

Or when your 1st grade said that Sally had 10 apples, and ate 3, that she clearly doesn't have any apples.  

Yes they're paying more but they're also getting more. Social security payouts are contribution-based. You get more if you pay more over the course of your work-life. But even then, a person making $500,000 per year pays a lower SS rate because FICA is capped for SS.

Wealthy people benefit from large police and military operations more than poor people, because they have much more property and supply lines to protect. Poor people mainly just have their possessions. It is a lot easier and cheaper to secure possessions than a multi-national corporation's assets.

Wealthy people benefit from having an educated workforce to employ and increase the returns on their stocks or profits in their company through productivity gains. 

Again, the point I brought up is that the social programs that benefit bottom 50% are usually funded by flat rates. So there isn't much redistribution toward the poor going on. 

And the point of an income tax being graduated is that the more wealth you have the more the state has to do to secure it (and the supply lines that promulgate it) for you, and therefore you should pay more for the defense the state provides than a person who has much less to protect.

Yes they're paying more but they're also getting more. Social security payouts are contribution-based. You get more if you pay more over the course of your work-life. But even then, a person making $500,000 per year pays a lower SS rate because FICA is capped for SS.

Wealthy people benefit from large police and military operations more than poor people, because they have much more property and supply lines to protect. Poor people mainly just have their possessions. It is a lot easier and cheaper to secure possessions than a multi-national corporation's assets.

Wealthy people benefit from having an educated workforce to employ and increase the returns on their stocks or profits in their company through productivity gains. 

Again, the point I brought up is that the social programs that benefit bottom 50% are usually funded by flat rates. So there isn't much redistribution toward the poor going on. 

And the point of an income tax being graduated is that the more wealth you have the more the state has to do to secure it (and the supply lines that promulgate it) for you, and therefore you should pay more for the defense the state provides than a person who has much less to protect.

Actually the top 10 percentile starts around 175k...  

So, care to say anything accurate?  People making 200k are top 10% and no they don't have two houses.  

Do you not understand the difference between the 10th percentile and average of the top 10%? 

We should pay more and guess what?  We do.  The bottom 50% pay around 4% income, while I'm paying 20%....  

The solution can't be steal money from others for all problems.  

97% of federal income is funded by the top 50%....  we are paying more.  A **** ton more.