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Jumpin said:

Listening to the videos posted while working... I have a glass of whisky in me, one coffee, two teas, a bit of weed.

Dionysus calls!

I've been going through a bunch of the songs, and I really enjoy them!

Is the theme songs that rock by women? Because I have a few - not quite on the vibe of the thread - and I'm stealing Nietzsche, but I tend to like music more on the Dionysian side, rather than the Apollonian, which metal generally falls more into - these songs probably involve a bit of both...

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And I don't know why, but I figured I'd close out the post with a a couple of 1970s classics by NYC's Joan Jett and London's X-Ray Spex:

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Hope these, or some of these, work for people.

Any theme in my selections that you can identify is purely coincidental. It's hard to make my brain work like that. Well I am preferentially biased in favor of, as you say, rock by women (as is I think somewhat natural), but I don't think any more so than the rest of people here have favored rock by men. I enjoy a good amount of material from all kinds of rock styles: metal of all sorts, grunge, punk, shoegaze, rave-rock, rap-rock, ska, classical rock n' roll...I'm not too stylistically picky in truth. Not these days. When I was younger, I had a preference for punk and grunge because I really agreed with the DIY ethos and the whole anarchistic, "anyone-can-be-a-musician", democratization-of-music philosophy often attached to it, but these days I do actually miss the huge spectacle metal shows and whatnot of yesteryear now that they're no longer as much of a thing anymore too. Progressive rock is kinda the stuff I'm pickiest about. Or on the flip side, also if the song is just somebody screaming indiscernibly and nothing else from beginning to end, that gets repetitious and one-note to me pretty quickly. Those are the closest things to limits I have within the hard rock framework.

If you would like a brief tour through some of the grrrl powr semi-classics that I fell in love with back in the day though, I will supply you below. I was very into the riot grrl underground back in my tween and teen years. Many people don't seem to understand today what the third feminist wave it was part of was really all about. I get the whole "first wave was about the right to vote, second about equal access to the economy...what the hell were you even about??" stuff a lot. It was mainly about sexuality and achieving equality in that arena, which granted may seem a bit subjective, but it wasn't so much back then when you realize that like 40% of American women reported experiencing sexual violence. Crime rates were astronomically higher than today at the time, marital rape was legal, and the women's movement back then fought a lot for everything from lesbian visibility and validation to the first federal laws banning domestic violence and subsidizing shelters for battered women, as well for the preservation of abortion rights in light of the recent closure of most providers at the time (all subjects near and dear to my heart). Stuff like that. Or at least that was the stuff we could broadly agree on anyway. That's the heart of what it was about, at least at first; like into the mid-'90s. It was also part of a much bigger moment in the youth culture characterized by high demand for authenticity in everything from clothes (e.g. a major uptick in thrifting was seen among teens and young adults in a kind of anti-fashion wave) to television shows to music. Anyway, starting at the beginning...

Behold the very first song on the very first rock tape I ever got.

Being underground music at the time, these songs didn't have music videos or anything fancy like that attached to them. Bikini Kill and the now-iconic singer Kathleen Hanna, more than anyone else, were sorta the public face of the subgenre, owing in no small part to their association with Nirvana and Kurt Cobain. They were the best-known group.

This next song of theirs -- the second one on the same album -- isn't a fun one, but it meant a lot to me.

The most iconic riot grrl song was this one. A bit cheesy by today's standards, but still catchy, authentic, and fun. Straight-up controversial back when it was new. Parents loathed this song for its explicit validation of same-sex relationships. It was always Bikini Kill's most in-demand song everywhere they played after its release and it's still easy to see why. This is the raw power of Kathleen Hanna's voice on full display!

Finally, this is footage from perhaps their most famous live performance, which was in Washington DC, drew a huge crowd, and I think captures the aura of it all well. The giant sign behind the group refers to Hanna's call for a media blackout on the part of the riot grrl movement to protest hostile and unfair news coverage.

Moving on from Bikini Kill, here's an awesome song by the Youngins you might remember from Gone Home, which remains the only video game to properly showcase and celebrate the '90s-era subgenre. (Ask me why it remains one of my all-time favorite games in perpetuity!) Does the angsty rawness not draw you in, I ask you?

There were also what have been regarded as riot grrl-adjacent songs and groups that were more mainstream and weren't formally part of the scene. For example, the X-Ray Spex, whom you posted a song from, were and are often considered an inspiration for the movement, though they were non-participants. Babes in Toyland were another such group. Below is third such example; a more mainstream group known to deploy similar themes without formally joining in the zine culture and whatnot. You'll notice that they actually had music videos. It gives you a sense of what the scene might've possibly looked like if it were above-ground like L7 was.

And now I must share a couple songs from my contemporaneous favorite band, Heavens to Betsy. It was a two-woman group. These are both from my favorite album of theirs. As one commentator has aptly put it, "If you don't feel this, you're not human".

Then the internet began to take hold and that was pretty much the end of the movement for a generation. It really destroyed the zine culture that the scene was built around. That said, riot grrl has also seen something of a revival in the last decade or so (mostly during the gender-bending 2010s). Here are a few tracks by two of my modern-day favorites in the subgenre:

This first one is a song about the experience of being groomed.

Before a quite serious internal controversy became public knowledge, GRLwood (another two-woman group) had been really one of the modern greats. Here's a song of theirs about weathering what the kids today might call your mother's internalized misogyny. If you don't have a Ph.D in women's studies, fret not because you'll get exactly what that term means by the end of this song.

Finally, a song about the gender dynamics of school shootings. And how pathetically regulated girls yes really are commonly taught to be to avoid male violence.

How to end this on a more upbeat note? ...Heee, I got it! How about Who's Got the Power? by Taocat? That should do it! Thematically appropriate and silly fun.

That is what rock feministing looks like, so now you are aware. It's also me trying very hard to stay on-message.

Last edited by Jaicee - on 19 April 2025

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HoloDust said:

I LOVED that Doom rock-appella! Did you just stumble on it? That's how I find a lot of amazingly creative stuff these days.



Jaicee said:
HoloDust said:

I LOVED that Doom rock-appella! Did you just stumble on it? That's how I find a lot of amazingly creative stuff these days.

Yeah, just stumbled upon it as recommendation - no idea why. I do tend to look for a bit weirder covers of songs, especially in that trend of making them sound as if they were made in medieval times (though to be honest, most don't actually sound really like what music sounded like in medieval times - Farya Faraji has some nice videos on that), so maybe that's why it popped up in recommendations, being a bit unusual cover.

Anyway, glad you liked it, IIRC you are fan of DOOM, so I thought this would be right right your alley.



HoloDust said:
Jaicee said:

I LOVED that Doom rock-appella! Did you just stumble on it? That's how I find a lot of amazingly creative stuff these days.

Yeah, just stumbled upon it as recommendation - no idea why. I do tend to look for a bit weirder covers of songs, especially in that trend of making them sound as if they were made in medieval times (though to be honest, most don't actually sound really like what music sounded like in medieval times - Farya Faraji has some nice videos on that), so maybe that's why it popped up in recommendations, being a bit unusual cover.

Anyway, glad you liked it, IIRC you are fan of DOOM, so I thought this would be right right your alley.

You have a good memory.

I enjoy lots of covers of game tunes myself, but that one certainly ranked in among the most awesomely creative I've seen yet. Nice find!

One of my own favorite covers of game tunes from that era has been "the theme of shut-in Samus", which is the most relaxing version of the music from Brinstar's Underground Depths in Super Metroid that you'll ever hear. The general atmosphere of Super Metroid is one of danger and isolation. This reimagining takes the isolation aspect and makes it feel safe and comfortable the way it sometimes really does in my heart. I won't actually embed the video because it doesn't fit the rock theme of this thread. Here though is a rock version that I certainly will embed:

There are a number of excellent rock covers of Super Metroid's soundtrack out there, in fact. Here's an incredible metal remix of the main theme, for instance:



Now that it's been confirmed that the original Alice Cooper group will be putting out their first album in 51 years (The Revenge of Alice Cooper) in July, here's some of my favourite songs of theirs.

My Stars

Caught in a Dream

Hard Hearted Alice

Halo of Flies

No More Mr Nice Guy



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We recently had Easter and then the pope died, so I thought it appropriate to acknowledge that before Elvis Presley and rock n' roll were a thing, there was the rock gospel of Sister Rosetta Tharpe. Tharpe was the first popular musician to use heavy distortion on an electric guitar. In fact, if I'm not mistaken, the term "rock", as applied to music, originated with her 1938 song Rock Me. Thus I present to you arguably the original rocker. Here she is in one of her later, better-preserved performances explaining how Noah's ark kicked ass.

Also, what better way to mourn a loss than with Rancid? Stylistically, this song's a little bit of ska fused with punk. It's about a good friend of the band who was murdered by Hell's Angels for sleeping with one of the gang member's wives.

This seems like a good follow-up. I was inspired to choose it by that recent article in The Atlantic, What Porn Taught a Generation of Women, and its premise that porn is our culture.

Keeping on our (for now) theme for this post, here's some fun kid punk in the form of a video game trailer (for a sweet and heartfelt game about childhood loneliness that I recommend) that also makes for a nice music video.

Alright, moving on. This next song's on the personal side for me. It's about that painful feeling of emotional distance from someone you love. Something I went through pretty heavily earlier this year.

Here's a violin cover of Smells Like Teen Spirit by Nirvana. "Kurt smells like Teen Spirit" was something Bikini Kill's Kathleen Hanna wrote about Kurt Cobain on a wall while drunk, referencing a smelly deodorant called Teen Spirit and Cobain's band, Nirvana, used the reference to describe a feeling of being trapped in adolescence despite being older. It became a generational anthem. It was also the first rock song I ever heard, so more than any other example it really defined what rock music was to me. There happened to be a story on the news, which my parents were watching, about the song's popularity. Anyway, here is a pretty awesome violin cover of that legendary jam.

Speaking of violins, let's try something a little different next. In the video below, this dude is challenged by a violinist to a pirate metal duel and it's one of the greatest things you'll see ever! Be forewarned that this is a longer video. It goes on for 15 minutes. It's worth all of them though. I enjoyed it thoroughly and think you will too.

For anyone who hasn't noticed, I also enjoy many neurotic tunes. (Example 1. Example 2. Example 3. Example 4. I won't embed those because they're not rock songs.) And I share traumacore memes. And shop at Plushie Dreadfuls. And own a discerning collection of Alice in Wonderland media and merch. And I think I just generally give people the shivers. This is because there is nothing wrong with me. Anyway, some of the aforementioned tunes I enjoy are the bipolar sugary pop and metal combo stylings of satirist Poppy and I feel like sharing a couple of those now.

Shifting over to Asia, as I'm often want of doing, here is Taiwanese folk metal about the joys of drunkenness.

Here's one of the newest concert videos posted by the Lovebites, whom I think you guys are liking so far based on the responses to other songs of theirs I shared earlier. This one's pretty good! A lot of energy in the delivery.

Finally, here is the cute and weirdly awesome Band-Maid. This is video posted just a few weeks ago from a 2023 concert.

Hope you has enjoyed!



I'm going to a Baby Metal concert on Saturday and am fucking HYYYYYYYPED! Therefore, I will now share more songs of theirs with you. I've already posted a number of songs by them, but with these I'll try to showcase a bit more of their range.

This power ballad got them a Grammy nomination. You will see, and feel, why. Much of it's sung in English.

Here's another of their power ballads. I really like this one too, especially with how its presented here with the moon and lunar eclipse background imagery. It gives me the feels.

One last slow song because it's moving and beautiful. English subtitles are featured.

This next one, Divine Attack, might be my favorite song of theirs. It has, for my taste anyway, a pretty damn flawless balance of beauty of heaviness that's both transporting and fun.

This one, on the other hand, is just plain fun. And very hype!

Here they are, collaborating with Tom Morello, who you might remember from Rage Against the Machine and Audioslave back in the day!

And finally, here's a very recent song of theirs. It's meant as a celebration of Momoko's birthday, which was on March 3, 2003 (3/3/03), and of her famous growl, to which end it's I believe their heaviest song to date. It's also a celebration of the fact that Baby Metal are three. It's the third song on the album, it runs for 3 minutes and 33 seconds, and it's mostly just them counting to san (3), lol. Intensely!! It's another collab vid too. It's goofy fun that you can't not be charmed by.

Hope you have enjoyed! And if you haven't, I don't know what's wrong with you, but something is.

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Here's a pro recording of the Baby Metal concert I was at Saturday! You won't be surprised to learn that my positioning was less ideal and it wasn't quite the same as what you see in footage from their Japanese concerts where they pack stadiums and the audience knows all the lyrics and all the cues, but this was definitely one of the most fun and memorable shows I've been to in ages. The set was chock full of their best stuff spanning the years and the audience was into it (in marked contrast to the other shows of the evening) and they themselves were amazing and gave it their all! You bet your ass I spent a good amount of time in the pit; it was the only way to go! Only thing that disappointed me was the absence of the musicians they originally collaborated with on a few of these songs. I've seen footage from some recent concerts where Poppy, for example, actually shows up and performs From Me 2 U with them live and that is more awesome than what we got, but honestly that stuff doesn't happen too often, so I wasn't counting on it. Not for an Irving stop anyway, ha ha!

When it comes to the setlist, don't worry, it's not just the fox god who knows: the video includes the full setlist and time stamps in the comments. Enjoy!

BONUS

Figuring you may be tiring of me showing you Baby Metal stuff by now, here's something to increase your Mana pool an extra 2 points...

...and a song about Skyrim that I like. 

Finally, here's something by Poppy. On an intensity scale of 1 to 10, this is about a 9.5, so you are forewarned.

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