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Would you quit gaming if the industry went full digital?

Yes 24 28.92%
 
No 46 55.42%
 
Unsure 13 15.66%
 
Total:83
Bizwas said:

I also still support physical media but see even the main advantage of ownership go away. The other day Microsoft had an issue here in Europe and Xbox services were offline. I wasn't even able to play an installed game with the disc in. My Xbox Series was a useless brick for 24 hours. Yes, if it had been set to "my home xbox" prior it would have worked, but it just shows you that in this day and age, even with physical media you are at the mercy of the console maker. And what reselling value will a disc have if the console it was supposed to play on does not work anymore because the company which made it dropped out of the console business and doesn't uphold the servers anymore which are required for check-in. In that scenario your physical games are just as useless as the digital ones.

I also hate that "feature", but as far as I know, only Xbox has that. But true, physical isn't what it used to be unfortunately. Hence GOG is the best platform imo.



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IcaroRibeiro said:

The things with CDs is not physical vs digital, is purchasing vs streaming. Digital music never really took off either outside few market like anglosphere and South Korea, most of world was either in physical on went full on piracy. Streaming is popular because it's unexpensive. I'm a person who listen a lot artists and like to discover new music, I could not listen as much music If I need to buy everything I want to give a try. 

Digital was doing decent upon a time. Far from CD levels of revenue but the growth of streaming later on (even as faster internet became more widely available) shows it was  a matter of the mass market being priced out of buying music.

I think once statistical and deep learning methods of latency reduction really kick off and streaming games feel indistinguishable from playing locally, the same will probably happen to the video game industry.

Then all this talk of physical and digital will be moot because most people won't even have the software locally installed in their hardware, though the option will still be there for us old-timers.



 

 

 

 

 

Imo, despite sales being overwhelmingly digital, it'll just be nice to have physical copies of games as an option for those who want it. Most major game companies are making more money than ever before, especially since they're needing retail less and less as a cost-efficient way to keep more money from every sale. Even if it means not mass-producing physical copies of every game, at least have the option there for the now minority of players that still purchase only physical. It's not like the technology to physically make games is going away.

Larian Studios for Baldur's Gate 3 is a great example. The overwhelming majority of the games sales are digital and will continue to be primarily digital, but the studio still managed to offer their game entirely on discs with an awesome number of additional goodies for those want it. They're not mass-producing physical copies of Baldur's Gate 3. They're just making copies for those who are actually placing an order for one. Which I feel is a great middle ground.

I have similar views of always online consoles/games when they're not PvP-only. The technological capabilities of being able to be 100% offline from 2+ console generations ago isn't going away. If I don't want to use a Sony/Microsoft account to login to my PS5/Xbox, then I shouldn't have to. Just let me play on a local account. If I'm not interested in cloud saves, achievements, etc. then I shouldn't have to use them. Just let me keep save backups on an external hard drive or flash drive. Nintendo still operates this way for the most part, as well as Sony to an extent. On the Switch, you start off with a local account when you boot up the console for the very first time. Then once you're in, that's when you have the option to sign in to your Nintendo account.

So much of the digital only future is being forced on us even though it's not necessary and has primarily shown to be more for penny pinching and bigger numbers to show off to shareholders. It's never proven to be necessary to have a good gaming experience.

Last edited by G2ThaUNiT - on 30 August 2024

G2ThaUNiT said:

Imo, despite sales being overwhelmingly digital, it'll just be nice to have physical copies of games as an option for those who want it. Most major game companies are making more money than ever before, especially since they're needing retail less and less as a cost-efficient way to keep more money from every sale. Even if it means not mass-producing physical copies of every game, at least have the option there for the now minority of players that still purchase only physical. It's not like the technology to physically make games is going away.

Larian Studios for Baldur's Gate 3 is a great example. The overwhelming majority of the games sales are digital and will continue to be primarily digital, but the studio still managed to offer their game entirely on discs with an awesome number of additional goodies for those want it. They're not mass-producing physical copies of Baldur's Gate 3. They're just making copies for those who are actually placing an order for one. Which I feel is a great middle ground.

I have similar views of always online consoles/games when they're not PvP-only. The technological capabilities of being able to be 100% offline from 2+ console generations ago isn't going away. If I don't want to use a Sony/Microsoft account to login to my PS5/Xbox, then I shouldn't have to. Just let me play on a local account. If I'm not interested in cloud saves, achievements, etc. then I shouldn't have to use them. Just let me keep save backups on an external hard drive or flash drive. Nintendo still operates this way for the part. On the Switch, you start off with a local account when you start up the console for the very first time. Then once you're in, that's when you have the option to sign in to your Nintendo account.

So much of the digital only future is being forced on us even though it's not necessary and has primarily shown to be more for penny pinching and bigger numbers to show off to shareholders. It's never proven to be necessary to have a good gaming experience.

It also isn't very expensive to create a glass master of a disc and have the dies cast for pressing and the equipment in house to continue physical media.  



...to avoid getting banned for inactivity, I may have to resort to comments that are of a lower overall quality and or beneath my moral standards.

I would mostly quit (I would play a title here and there, no doubt), but not gaming as a whole, as there are all those retro consoles to play and carts to collect. For me, the games released between the 2600 and PS2 never seem to get old. I could easily enjoy just those until the day I was dead... even if I lived to be ninety.



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Bizwas said:

Another plus for physical media for people with friends: you can borrow a game from them/ lend one to them.

Yeah... once you recognize this simple fact and consciously read through threads about physical video games, it becomes apparent how few of the people online actually do have friends.



Legend11 correctly predicted that GTA IV will outsell Super Smash Bros. Brawl. I was wrong.

Azzanation said:

Benefits of Digital 

- Does not deteriorate over time of use

- Does not rely on a working Disk Drive to play

- Cannot be lost or stolen

- Cannot be damaged

- Zero Maintenace on the condition of the game

- Universally played on multiple devices (Disk or Diskless systems)

I don't think those benefits are true.  Digital is tied to the hardware you buy it for.  If it's on a computer, software breaks when the OS updates.  On non-computers, when that hardware dies and/or the servers are switched off, it's lost.

At least with Physical, you can buy replacement hardware and software from eBay.



RolStoppable said:
Bizwas said:

Another plus for physical media for people with friends: you can borrow a game from them/ lend one to them.

Yeah... once you recognize this simple fact and consciously read through threads about physical video games, it becomes apparent how few of the people online actually do have friends.

Not only that but when you consider PC gaming is practically 100% digital, Sony's recent financial results showed PlayStation sales were 80% digital, Nintendo's recent financial results showed Switch sales have long passed 50% digital, and Xbox sales are around 90% digital, you start to wonder if you have friends, how many of them even bother with physical at all?

It's no longer 20 years ago when all games were physical and sharing games amongst friends was so common because if you had a console, you had to buy games physically. You're statistically more likely to let your friends borrow the whole damn console than borrow your games lol.



I have never lost a game. All my stuff still works.



Bite my shiny metal cockpit!

I love physical, if consoles went all digital I would abandon console gaming as a whole. With PC gaming it's been all digital for a long time (save for a physical release here and there) so I don't care at all there and I'll gladly make PC my main and only platform in the future (this assumes everyone including Nintendo went all digital).