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CosmicSex said:
Chrkeller said:

I thought we agreed no shit posting?

Taking a few morons and painting the entire party is shit posting.  

With all due respect MAGA has just declared war on JD Vance because his wife is from India and he has a mixed race kid.    The GOP deserves all the s*it they get.  

GOP has bad apples, a lot of them.  But broad painting and generalizations are not fruit.

If said I democrats are baby killing thieves who steal from working Americans...  how helpful to the discuss would it be?

So no, he is shit posting.

Attack specific people, not the whole party.  Many of us do not agree with the direction the party has taken.  

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I hope, and think, Vance will help lose the election.  And maybe the party will finally give maga the boot.  Maga needs to go.  As long as maga stays, I'm not voting for conservatives.

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Renamed said:

Start watching from 1:50.  Lady says Harris is dumb and then admits she knows nothing about her.

https://x.com/plies/status/1816094508058116489

Same people who believe being gay is a lifestyle choice while being morbidly obese is universally genetic.



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CosmicSex said:
Ryuu96 said:

This dude is without a doubt, the dumbest VP that I've ever seen in my lifetime.

But also a disgusting POS. I genuinely think he's going to hurt Trump's campaign.

I don't understand why the GOP thinks their best strategy is to push people away.  And specifically, he is talking about all females without kids.  Thats a huge demographic to go after and alienate for no reason.  

Not just women without kids but also women who adopt or women who are stepmothers (like Harris is), this lunatic specifically singles out women who don't biologically give birth to children, honestly you could easily extent his criticism to men without kids too, he's saying all those people don't have a direct stake in America, it's an insanely stupid line of attack

How many women without biological kids? Tens of millions? Adoptive parents? Step-parents? Men without kids?

JD Vance has competition with Liz Truss as the dumbest politician in my lifetime.

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We need to bring out the lettuce for JD Vance at this rate.

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Chrkeller said:
CosmicSex said:

With all due respect MAGA has just declared war on JD Vance because his wife is from India and he has a mixed race kid.    The GOP deserves all the s*it they get.  

GOP has bad apples, a lot of them.  But broad painting and generalizations are not fruit.

If said I democrats are baby killing thieves who steal from working Americans...  how helpful to the discuss would it be?

So no, he is shit posting.

Attack specific people, not the whole party.  Many of us do not agree with the direction the party has taken.  

Edit

I hope, and think, Vance will help lose the election.  And maybe the party will finally give maga the boot.  Maga needs to go.  As long as maga stays, I'm not voting for conservatives.

If you took a step back and had to explain the unhinged behavior of MAGA since Biden bowed out of the race, what would you say is the reason why they are so scared of Kamala Harris? Chances are that your response would be very similar to what Renamed said, just minced with more political correctness.

On the contrary, the example about democrats you provide in your post is an all-out blatant lie. Context matters in such comparisons.

You are bothered that people generalize Republicans, but at the same time you know that the party has thrown its full weight behind MAGA. That's why it shouldn't surprise you that the terms Republicans and MAGA are used interchangeably after last week's convention. You claim that "many of us do not agree with this direction", but that's not what the polling shows. Even most of you who don't agree will still vote for Trump. Of the remaining rest, most are only against it on the surface, meaning they have no intention to vote for the Democrats, even though that would be what they have to do to put an end to MAGA and get their old Republican party back.

The only Republicans with a backbone are those who will vote for Harris in November. If you were one of those, you wouldn't have had an issue with Renamed's post to begin with, because at that point you wouldn't associate yourself with the vast majority of Republicans anymore and therefore not play defense for them.



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RolStoppable said:
Chrkeller said:

GOP has bad apples, a lot of them.  But broad painting and generalizations are not fruit.

If said I democrats are baby killing thieves who steal from working Americans...  how helpful to the discuss would it be?

So no, he is shit posting.

Attack specific people, not the whole party.  Many of us do not agree with the direction the party has taken.  

Edit

I hope, and think, Vance will help lose the election.  And maybe the party will finally give maga the boot.  Maga needs to go.  As long as maga stays, I'm not voting for conservatives.

If you took a step back and had to explain the unhinged behavior of MAGA since Biden bowed out of the race, what would you say is the reason why they are so scared of Kamala Harris? Chances are that your response would be very similar to what Renamed said, just minced with more political correctness.

On the contrary, the example about democrats you provide in your post is an all-out blatant lie. Context matters in such comparisons.

You are bothered that people generalize Republicans, but at the same time you know that the party has thrown its full weight behind MAGA. That's why it shouldn't surprise you that the terms Republicans and MAGA are used interchangeably after last week's convention. You claim that "many of us do not agree with this direction", but that's not what the polling shows. Even most of you who don't agree will still vote for Trump. Of the remaining rest, most are only against it on the surface, meaning they have no intention to vote for the Democrats, even though that would be what they have to do to put an end to MAGA and get their old Republican party back.

The only Republicans with a backbone are those who will vote for Harris in November. If you were one of those, you wouldn't have had an issue with Renamed's post to begin with, because at that point you wouldn't associate yourself with the vast majority of Republicans anymore and therefore not play defense for them.

I think Biden was an easy target and easy win.  Which is why I was annoyed at him getting the green light.  So no, I don't think they are scared of women.  I think their easy win just went out the door.  

My view on democrats is as accurate as the nonsense Renamed posted, period.  

At some point people need to stop playing favorites because of sides.  His post was shit and you know it.  I know it, we all know it.  

Edit

The party has been hijacked, millions of us are aware and bothered by it.  Thus it isn't correct to group us.  The Nazi party were socialists.  that doesn't mean socialists are Nazis.  

I also fully expect many conservatives to either not vote for president or fully vote for Harris.  We do exist. 

Sweeping generalizations and shit posting is wrong, full stop.  

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Chrkeller said:

I think Biden was an easy target and easy win.  Which is why I was annoyed at him getting the green light.  So no, I don't think they are scared of women.  I think their easy win just went out the door.  

My view on democrats is as accurate as the nonsense Renamed posted, period.  

At some point people need to stop playing favorites because of sides.  His post was shit and you know it.  I know it, we all know it.  

Edit

The party has been hijacked, millions of us are aware and bothered by it.  Thus it isn't correct to group us.  The Nazi party were socialists.  that doesn't mean socialists are Nazis.  

I also fully expect many conservatives to either not vote for president or fully vote for Harris.  We do exist. 

Sweeping generalizations and shit posting is wrong, full stop.  

I have no issue with Renamed's post. That's because I've never been against calling a spade a spade. Your view on democrats qualifies as shit, though.

As for your edit, you have to study history. The Nazi party were not socialists, they just put the word in their name as a cover.

I still see no commitment from you to vote for Harris. You bundle two different groups together into one in order to claim that you belong to this group, so I think it's fair to say that you aren't truly against MAGA.



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RolStoppable said:
Chrkeller said:

I think Biden was an easy target and easy win.  Which is why I was annoyed at him getting the green light.  So no, I don't think they are scared of women.  I think their easy win just went out the door.  

My view on democrats is as accurate as the nonsense Renamed posted, period.  

At some point people need to stop playing favorites because of sides.  His post was shit and you know it.  I know it, we all know it.  

Edit

The party has been hijacked, millions of us are aware and bothered by it.  Thus it isn't correct to group us.  The Nazi party were socialists.  that doesn't mean socialists are Nazis.  

I also fully expect many conservatives to either not vote for president or fully vote for Harris.  We do exist. 

Sweeping generalizations and shit posting is wrong, full stop.  

I have no issue with Renamed's post. That's because I've never been against calling a spade a spade. Your view on democrats qualifies as shit, though.

As for your edit, you have to study history. The Nazi party were not socialists, they just put the word in their name as a cover.

I still see no commitment from you to vote for Harris. You bundle two different groups together into one in order to claim that you belong to this group, so I think it's fair to say that you aren't truly against MAGA.

The great thing about facts is they don't care about your opinion.  :) 



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Chrkeller said:

The party has been hijacked, millions of us are aware and bothered by it.  Thus it isn't correct to group us.  The Nazi party were socialists.  that doesn't mean socialists are Nazis.  

Nazis were not socialists.

North Korea is called the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea. Do you believe North Korea to be a genuine democracy? 

Some of the first people that the Nazis went after were political opponents, such as socialists and communists.  

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

—Martin Niemöller

I think a major contributor to this idea, is that a lot of Americans think that left wing means big government and right wing means small government. The definition has more to do with hierarchy. Left wing is more about some idea of equality. Whereas right wing is about some people having more power than others. 



Chrkeller said:

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The party has been hijacked, millions of us are aware and bothered by it.  Thus it isn't correct to group us.  The Nazi party were socialists.  that doesn't mean socialists are Nazis.  

I also fully expect many conservatives to either not vote for president or fully vote for Harris.  We do exist. 

Sweeping generalizations and shit posting is wrong, full stop.  

The Nazis had the most right-wing economic policy in the world until Reagan and Thatcher in the 1980s (well, Pinochet in the 1970s actually). They basically invented corporate deregulation, mass privatization, freezing of wages, etc.

The only difference was that Hitler escaped control from Papen and the bourgeoisie supporting him, so the totalitarian state controlled the economy (as it controlled everything else in German life), not the corporations. But otherwise, yeah. There's a reason the Nazis are called 'far-right'.

Even Goebbels and the Strasserists were basing themselves on economic antisemitism rather than any Marxist or Anarchist theory that has been the theoretical linchpin of revolutionary socialism since the First International six decades earlier.