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SvennoJ said:

Palestine Acton is prescribed terrorist organisation. They went into a UK military base and damaged equipment, compromising the national security of the UK. Please don't sympathise with them, they believe in forms of activism that are extreme and potentially harmful against innocent UK citizens. 



Hardstuck-Platinum said:

Palestine Acton is prescribed terrorist organisation. They went into a UK military base and damaged equipment, compromising the national security of the UK. Please don't sympathise with them, they believe in forms of activism that are extreme and potentially harmful against innocent UK citizens. 

Nonsense. They targeted the RAF planes, smeared them with red paint, because they are used to help commit genocide.



They did not compromise the security of the UK, unless that depends on 2 planes... They did bring attention to RAF spy flights, which those behind it didn't like. As well as vandalize one of Trump's golf courses, where Trump called them terrorists.

They got proscribed by lumping them together with 2 actual terrorist organizations as a combined bill, to push PA proscription through.

https://www.declassifieduk.org/revealed-how-palestine-action-was-banned/

The UK government was secretly advised that Palestine Action is “highly unlikely” to advocate for violence while officials struggled to produce evidence the group posed a national security threat, it can be revealed.

....

The documents detail how the government’s Proscription Review Group (PRG) conceded in March 2025 that a ban on Palestine Action would be “novel and unprecedented”. This was because “there was no known precedent of an organisation being proscribed… mainly due to its use or threat of action involving serious damage to property”.

The Joint Terrorism Analysis Centre (JTAC), which is based within MI5, also concluded that “the majority of direct action by Palestine Action would not be classified as terrorism… but does often involve criminality”.

Cooper was nonetheless advised in March by PRG and JTAC that the threshold to ban the group had been met based on three out of a total of 385 incidents, involving “serious property damage” to arms factories.


Arms factories that supply the arms to commit genocide like Elbit systems.


The JTAC assessment notes how: “PA media channels highly likely will only share footage, or encourage, instances of property damage. PA branded media will highly unlikely explicitly advocate for violence against persons”.

The documents also indicate how national security concerns were not a central factor in the Home Office’s decision to proscribe. Indeed, they barely feature in the government’s open evidence.

Ammori’s lawyers argued in court that “no national security justification for the proscription” was articulated by the Home Office, such that Cooper “did not take into account any weighty national security consideration requiring immediate proscription”.

This appears to run contrary to Cooper’s statement to parliament on 23 June, in which she declared: “The UK’s defence enterprise is vital to the nation’s national security and this Government will not tolerate those who put that security at risk”.


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The discrepancy between the Home Office press briefings and the official intelligence reports raises the prospect that a state-linked disinformation campaign was waged against Palestine Action in order to manufacture public consent for proscription.

...

Remarkably, the Foreign Office specifically advised against proscription in March “in response to the breakdown of the ceasefire [in Gaza] and the interaction with Ramadan”.

It noted that proscription at this time risked being “received poorly both domestically and abroad by our partners where it could be perceived as pro-Israel bias after the resumption of their military operations”.

To this end, Cooper repeatedly delayed approving the proscription order until June 2025 citing the Foreign Office’s advice, as well as considerations relating to local elections and forthcoming Palestine Action trials.

The incident at RAF Brize Norton, when Palestine Action activists sprayed paint into Voyager aircraft, was therefore the trigger but not the cause of the proscription order, which had been approved months prior.

Even then, the Home Office did not seem to be altogether confident in the ban.

It included in the proscription order two other organisations, the Maniacs Murder Cult and Russian Imperial Movement, with the apparent goal of lumping Palestine Action together with neo-Nazi groups and making it difficult for MPs to vote against.

...

The Foreign Office was nonetheless satisfied that the US government would respond positively to the proscription, the documents show.

On 11 March, an internal Foreign Office report concluded that the US was “likely to be the most supportive of our Five Eyes partners regarding a UK proscription given the new Administration’s position on the OPTs”. This is despite the UK government openly opposing Trump’s position on the OPTs.

There is evidence, moreover, to suggest that Trump may have weighed in on the issue of Palestine Action’s proscription.

On 8 March 2025, Palestine Action activists vandalised the Trump-owned Turnberry golf resort in Scotland, painting the words “Gaza is not 4 sale” on the grass and graffitting the clubhouse. Trump took to his Truth Social media platform shortly afterwards to call Palestine Action “terrorists”.

...


This is pure government corruption, an attack on free speech and the right to protest as well as making a mockery of the terrorism act. The government is absolutely wrong in this case and I fully support everyone standing up against this ridiculous attack on free speech.



Terrorism is the use of violence against non-combatants to achieve political or ideological aims.

PA did not use violence, they did not target non-combatants. They targeted grass on a golf course, smeared buildings with paint as well as 2 planes, planes that are used to commit genocide. They're goal is to stop genocide, the same goal the UK government should have by law.


No the government are the extreme ones and are harmful to innocent UK citizens. The people have a right to resist according to the Human Rights Act.

The high court has green lit the challenge
https://administrativecourtblog.wordpress.com/2025/07/31/high-court-green-lights-challenge-to-palestine-action-proscription/
But the home secretary is doing everything to delay.



SvennoJ said:
Hardstuck-Platinum said:

Palestine Acton is prescribed terrorist organisation. They went into a UK military base and damaged equipment, compromising the national security of the UK. Please don't sympathise with them, they believe in forms of activism that are extreme and potentially harmful against innocent UK citizens. 

Nonsense. They targeted the RAF planes, smeared them with red paint, because they are used to help commit genocide.



They did not compromise the security of the UK, unless that depends on 2 planes... They did bring attention to RAF spy flights, which those behind it didn't like. As well as vandalize one of Trump's golf courses, where Trump called them terrorists.

They got proscribed by lumping them together with 2 actual terrorist organizations as a combined bill, to push PA proscription through.

https://www.declassifieduk.org/revealed-how-palestine-action-was-banned/

The UK government was secretly advised that Palestine Action is “highly unlikely” to advocate for violence while officials struggled to produce evidence the group posed a national security threat, it can be revealed.

....

The documents detail how the government’s Proscription Review Group (PRG) conceded in March 2025 that a ban on Palestine Action would be “novel and unprecedented”. This was because “there was no known precedent of an organisation being proscribed… mainly due to its use or threat of action involving serious damage to property”.

The Joint Terrorism Analysis Centre (JTAC), which is based within MI5, also concluded that “the majority of direct action by Palestine Action would not be classified as terrorism… but does often involve criminality”.

Cooper was nonetheless advised in March by PRG and JTAC that the threshold to ban the group had been met based on three out of a total of 385 incidents, involving “serious property damage” to arms factories.


Arms factories that supply the arms to commit genocide like Elbit systems.


The JTAC assessment notes how: “PA media channels highly likely will only share footage, or encourage, instances of property damage. PA branded media will highly unlikely explicitly advocate for violence against persons”.

The documents also indicate how national security concerns were not a central factor in the Home Office’s decision to proscribe. Indeed, they barely feature in the government’s open evidence.

Ammori’s lawyers argued in court that “no national security justification for the proscription” was articulated by the Home Office, such that Cooper “did not take into account any weighty national security consideration requiring immediate proscription”.

This appears to run contrary to Cooper’s statement to parliament on 23 June, in which she declared: “The UK’s defence enterprise is vital to the nation’s national security and this Government will not tolerate those who put that security at risk”.


...

The discrepancy between the Home Office press briefings and the official intelligence reports raises the prospect that a state-linked disinformation campaign was waged against Palestine Action in order to manufacture public consent for proscription.

...

Remarkably, the Foreign Office specifically advised against proscription in March “in response to the breakdown of the ceasefire [in Gaza] and the interaction with Ramadan”.

It noted that proscription at this time risked being “received poorly both domestically and abroad by our partners where it could be perceived as pro-Israel bias after the resumption of their military operations”.

To this end, Cooper repeatedly delayed approving the proscription order until June 2025 citing the Foreign Office’s advice, as well as considerations relating to local elections and forthcoming Palestine Action trials.

The incident at RAF Brize Norton, when Palestine Action activists sprayed paint into Voyager aircraft, was therefore the trigger but not the cause of the proscription order, which had been approved months prior.

Even then, the Home Office did not seem to be altogether confident in the ban.

It included in the proscription order two other organisations, the Maniacs Murder Cult and Russian Imperial Movement, with the apparent goal of lumping Palestine Action together with neo-Nazi groups and making it difficult for MPs to vote against.

...

The Foreign Office was nonetheless satisfied that the US government would respond positively to the proscription, the documents show.

On 11 March, an internal Foreign Office report concluded that the US was “likely to be the most supportive of our Five Eyes partners regarding a UK proscription given the new Administration’s position on the OPTs”. This is despite the UK government openly opposing Trump’s position on the OPTs.

There is evidence, moreover, to suggest that Trump may have weighed in on the issue of Palestine Action’s proscription.

On 8 March 2025, Palestine Action activists vandalised the Trump-owned Turnberry golf resort in Scotland, painting the words “Gaza is not 4 sale” on the grass and graffitting the clubhouse. Trump took to his Truth Social media platform shortly afterwards to call Palestine Action “terrorists”.

...


This is pure government corruption, an attack on free speech and the right to protest as well as making a mockery of the terrorism act. The government is absolutely wrong in this case and I fully support everyone standing up against this ridiculous attack on free speech.



Terrorism is the use of violence against non-combatants to achieve political or ideological aims.

PA did not use violence, they did not target non-combatants. They targeted grass on a golf course, smeared buildings with paint as well as 2 planes, planes that are used to commit genocide. They're goal is to stop genocide, the same goal the UK government should have by law.


No the government are the extreme ones and are harmful to innocent UK citizens. The people have a right to resist according to the Human Rights Act.

The high court has green lit the challenge
https://administrativecourtblog.wordpress.com/2025/07/31/high-court-green-lights-challenge-to-palestine-action-proscription/
But the home secretary is doing everything to delay.

It doesn't matter if you feel there wasn't enough damage done to the planes to justify PA being a a terrorist org, and it doesn't matter if you feel they shouldn't have been prescribed one. What matters is that there was an incident involving them and they have been, and supporting prescribed terrorist organisations  in MY country is going too far.

This is the VGChartz terms of use. We cannot post anything "inappropriate, profane, defamatory, infringing, obscene, indecent". 

Supporting a terrorist organization can potentially be considered inappropriate or unlawful under various legal and ethical standards. In certain contexts, it might also be classified as:

  • Inappropriate or indecent — because it involves supporting violent or harmful activities.
  • Profane or obscene — if it involves promotion of violence or hatred that violates community standards.
  • Defamatory — if it involves spreading false information that damages reputation.
  • Infringing — if it involves violating laws or rights, such as anti-terrorism laws or intellectual property rights.

No disrespect to you. I do like your frequent updates in this thread. It's good to know how everything is progressing, but I had to report your post for your support of Palestine Action. I don't think the mods will do anything, but I live in the UK and how could I not report someone who supports damaging our military equipment? Doesn't matter if you feel it's used for genocide. Every country has a military and there is nothing wrong with that



Hardstuck-Platinum said:

It doesn't matter if you feel there wasn't enough damage done to the planes to justify PA being a a terrorist org, and it doesn't matter if you feel they shouldn't have been prescribed one. What matters is that there was an incident involving them and they have been, and supporting prescribed terrorist organisations  in MY country is going too far.

This is the VGChartz terms of use. We cannot post anything "inappropriate, profane, defamatory, infringing, obscene, indecent". 

Supporting a terrorist organization can potentially be considered inappropriate or unlawful under various legal and ethical standards. In certain contexts, it might also be classified as:

  • Inappropriate or indecent — because it involves supporting violent or harmful activities.
  • Profane or obscene — if it involves promotion of violence or hatred that violates community standards.
  • Defamatory — if it involves spreading false information that damages reputation.
  • Infringing — if it involves violating laws or rights, such as anti-terrorism laws or intellectual property rights.

No disrespect to you. I do like your frequent updates in this thread. It's good to know how everything is progressing, but I had to report your post for your support of Palestine Action. I don't think the mods will do anything, but I live in the UK and how could I not report someone who supports damaging our military equipment? Doesn't matter if you feel it's used for genocide. Every country has a military and there is nothing wrong with that

It's not a terrorist organization by any definition of terrorism. They should be prosecuted for trespassing and vandalism at best.


The incident with the RAF planes came after it was already decided to proscribe PA.

Remarkably, the Foreign Office specifically advised against proscription in March “in response to the breakdown of the ceasefire [in Gaza] and the interaction with Ramadan”. It noted that proscription at this time risked being “received poorly both domestically and abroad by our partners where it could be perceived as pro-Israel bias after the resumption of their military operations”.

To this end, Cooper repeatedly delayed approving the proscription order until June 2025 citing the Foreign Office’s advice, as well as considerations relating to local elections and forthcoming Palestine Action trials.

The incident at RAF Brize Norton, when Palestine Action activists sprayed paint into Voyager aircraft, was therefore the trigger but not the cause of the proscription order, which had been approved months prior.

Even then, the Home Office did not seem to be altogether confident in the ban.

It included in the proscription order two other organisations, the Maniacs Murder Cult and Russian Imperial Movement, with the apparent goal of lumping Palestine Action together with neo-Nazi groups and making it difficult for MPs to vote against.


You're just like the British police, following orders from a corrupt government that supports genocide.

That's what the right to protest is for, to keep governments in check to be for the people, not for the property of Billionaires / corporations or to play colonization abroad. 

The UK is abusing anti-terrorism laws to stifle legitimate protest to protect their complicity in genocide.


Me calling out the UK for attacking free speech and right to assembly is my right under Canadian law and IHL. And I'm concerned that if this isn't reversed quickly Canada will follow as it usually does.



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