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JRPGfan said:

So any idea how much longer this will take? Isreal themselves claim they have gotten rid of most of hamas strongholds right?
and now it seems hamas wants the war to end (while isreal is like "just a few more left").

Meanwhile the people there suffer.

If we take these ultra religious fascists words at face value, we should expect their goals to extend beyond eliminating hamas. 



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JRPGfan said:

So any idea how much longer this will take? Isreal themselves claim they have gotten rid of most of hamas strongholds right?
and now it seems hamas wants the war to end (while isreal is like "just a few more left").

Meanwhile the people there suffer.

Netanyahu and his right wing war cabinet have already planned to stay in Gaza for the rest of the year. Resistance from Qassam Brigades and PIJ (Palestinian Islamic Jihad) keeps popping back up. Israel has bombed and raided the Zeitoun Neigborhood in Gaza City 3 or 4 times already.

You can't wipe out Hamas militarily. While Israel claims they have killed 14,000 fighters so far (out of estimate 30,000) others very much doubt those numbers. Some say it's only around 6,000 actual fighters that they might have killed. Plus they have no shortage of desperate people, who have lost everything, to recruit from.

But maybe the US can persuade Netanyahu to declare 'victory' after raiding Rafah with all the disasters that will bring with it. Netanyahu is in no hurry to do that though. His only way to stay in power is to continue the war. The IDF is ready to invade Southern Lebanon as well in case a temporary ceasefire happens. Or maybe it would finally allow a temporary ceasefire to happen in Gaza if the IDF starts invading Southern Lebanon :/

Israel is not "just a few more left". They're there to stay in Gaza while Hamas wants them out. That's the fundamental difference that holds up any ceasefire agreement. Israel only wants a pause while Hamas agreed to a change in wording (by the US) that mentions sustained quiet. Netanyahu didn't accept that, hence he rejected the 'sustained quiet' deal Hamas agreed to, effectively with the US. It doesn't seem the US is going to press on that as after Hamas accepted the deal and Netanyahu complained, the US suddenly denied Hamas accepted the deal.

So I really have no idea. There is no clear end goal and Biden remains weak. He wants to press for a ceasefire and more aid yet caves in quickly to pressure from Israel and Republicans every time. Biden needs to do something though, he doesn't have much time left.

The UN, UNSC, ICC and ICJ all proved meaningless. While a few countries have halted arms shipments, only Turkey so far has put any real sanctions on Israel. 99% of Israel's weapons are coming from the US and Germany, those two need to step up but are not showing any signs of changing policy. The one shipment Biden paused is negligible and Leahy law has been circumvented.

My only hope atm is the student movement in the USA. The bigger and the longer it grows, the more pressure on Biden. The opposition in Israel is far too small and while most people in Israel are not for the genocide, they're not against either. They simply don't care.



South Africa asks ICJ to order Israel to withdraw from Gaza’s Rafah

South Africa has asked the International Court of Justice to order Israeli forces to cease their attack and withdraw from Rafah.

As part of an ongoing case brought by South Africa, which accuses Israel of acts of genocide against Palestinians, the court has been asked to take additional emergency measures over Israel’s assault on Rafah where some 1.4 million people are sheltering after fleeing other parts of the Palestinian territory.

South Africa said in its request that additional measures were necessary because of Israel’s “assault on Rafah and the extreme risk it poses for humanitarian supplies and basic services into Gaza … and to the very survival of Palestinians in Gaza as a group”.



UAE denounces Netanyahu’s ‘invitation’ to participate in Gaza administration

The United Arab Emirates has denounced Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s recent remarks about “inviting” the UAE “to participate in civil administration of Gaza”.

In a statement published on the UAE’s Foreign Ministry social media account, the country’s foreign minister said Netanyahu “does not have any legal capacity to take this step”, and the UAE would not be “drawn into any plan aimed at providing cover for the Israeli presence in the Gaza Strip”, which is “under Israeli occupation”.

“The UAE affirms that when a Palestinian government is formed that meets the hopes and aspirations of the brotherly Palestinian people and enjoys integrity, competence and independence, the state [UAE] will be fully prepared to provide all forms of support to that government,” UAE Foreign Minister Sheikh Abdullah bin Zayed said the statement.

 

Report on Israel’s use of US weapons in Gaza a ‘passing the buck’ exercise: Analyst

Saul Takahashi, professor of human rights and peace studies at Osaka Jogakuin University in Japan, said the US State Department’s finding that Israel’s use of American weapons in Gaza was “inconsistent” with international humanitarian law was “probably the understatement of the year”.

The State Department’s report, which stopped short of stating that Israel had violated international law in Gaza, was a “bureaucratic, passing the buck exercise” by the US, Takahashi told Al Jazeera. “It’s incontrovertible. Clear as the light of day that Israel has been committing a litany of war crimes, crimes against humanity, and genocide,” Takahashi said.

“But nobody wants to be the one who points to the elephant in the room,” he said. “I think what happened is the bureaucrats have passed the buck on and now its supposedly a political decision. But, really, the buck has got to stop … and Biden has to find his courage and stand up for what’s right,” he added.

“He is very much damaging, if not already decimated, his prospects for re-election in November.”



Israel will ‘not destroy Hamas’ in Rafah; Palestinian fighters launch 17 attacks in Gaza City: Monitors

Israeli forces were attacked at least 17 times by Palestinian armed groups fighting in Gaza City’s Zeitoun neighbourhood on Friday, suggesting that “Hamas has been able to either preserve or reconstitute military capabilities” despite sustained Israeli operations in the area, war monitors report.

In their joint battlefield assessment, the Institute for the Study of War (ISW) and the Critical Threats Project (CTP) – two US-based think tanks – report that Hamas fighters used sniper rifles, mortars and rocket-propelled grenades in the 17 attacks as Israeli forces attempted to clear Zeitoun for a third time.

“This high rate of attacks is not consistent with a destroyed military force,” the ISW/CTP report states. “Palestinian militias retain the will and the means to continue disrupting and defending against [Israeli] raids, as evidenced by the rate of Palestinian militia attacks during this raid,” the report adds.

The war monitors said the “resilience of Hamas and other Palestinian militia groups” strongly indicates that the Israeli military operation “in Rafah will not destroy Hamas”. “Hamas has survived as a military entity in the remainder of the Strip, including throughout the north,“ they add.

 

‘Sophisticated attacks’: Hamas fighters prepared in advance for assault on Rafah

Sophisticated attacks launched by Palestinian fighters against Israeli forces advancing on Rafah demonstrate that Hamas prepared in advance to slow the ground invasion down, war monitors report.

On Friday, Palestinian fighters carried out “three tactically sophisticated attacks” on Israeli forces in Rafah involving the use of “thermobaric bombs, rocket-propelled grenades, and anti-personnel rockets in multi-stage attacks”, the Institute for the Study of War (ISW) and the Critical Threats Project (CTP) have reported.

Fighters, including Hamas forces, conducted 18 attacks on Israeli troops in eastern Rafah on Friday, according to the report by the ISW/CTP, two US-based think tanks.

“The sophisticated nature of these attacks required planning, coordination, and organization, further underscoring that the Hamas battalions in Rafah are cohesive fighting units that can mount a deliberate defence against Israeli clearing operations,” the think tanks said.




Israel orders more eastern Rafah neighbourhoods to evacuate

The Israeli military has expanded its evacuation order for Rafah, telling residents of designated blocks of the al-Jnaina, Khirbet al-Adas, and al-Adari neighbourhoods, and Shaboura camp to urgently leave.

In a post on X, the Israeli military’s Arabic-language spokesperson Avichay Adraee told residents to “immediately head to the expanded humanitarian area in al-Mawasi”.

In addition to expanding evacuation orders for Rafah, Israel has also called for residents to evacuate areas of Jabalia and northern Gaza:

  • al-Salam
  • Tal az-Zaatar
  • al-Nour
  • Ezbet Mlin
  • al-Rawda
  • al-Nuzha
  • al-Jarn
  • al-Nahda
  • az-Zuhour
  • Jabalia camp
  • Beit Lahiya project

Evacuation orders apply to some areas of central Rafah

Witnesses in Rafah have confirmed that Israeli authorities dropped leaflets and made phone calls for more evacuation orders. They are now ordering people to flee from central areas of Rafah, not only the eastern portions, where battles are now raging.

Earlier today, evacuation orders were issued for Shaboura and the vicinity of Kuwaiti Hospital. People are told to flee because these areas will in the future become a military operation zone for the Israeli army. The situation is completely dire.



Death toll mounts as Israeli jets, artillery pound Gaza City in north to Rafah in south

The Palestinian state news agency Wafa reports that dozens of people have been killed in attacks on Gaza, including local journalist Bahaa Okasha, who died along with his wife and son in an Israeli attack on their home in the Jabalia refugee camp.

Wafa reports that at least 10 people were killed and many injured, including children, in an Israeli bombardment of a house belonging to the al-Khatib family in central Gaza’s az-Zawayda town.

Israeli warplanes and artillery have also pounded central and eastern areas of southern Rafah city, which is reported to be now encircled by Israel’s military as a long-feared ground operation ramps up.

Casualties were also reported following Israeli attacks on Gaza City in the north, including on the home of the Siam family, located in the old town areas of the city. Al Jazeera Arabic has also reported three people killed and a number wounded in Gaza City’s Sabra and Zeitoun neighbourhoods.

 

Civil defence official accuses Israel of carrying out civilian ‘massacres’ in night attacks

A member of the Palestinian Civil Defence in northern Gaza has accused Israeli forces of “massacring” civilians in attacks on at least three homes in the Beit Lahiya and Jabalia refugee camp areas.

Director of Civil Defence in the north, Ahmed al-Kahlot, told our colleagues at Al Jazeera Arabic that rescue crews are still trying to retrieve people from beneath the rubble of the three homes that were destroyed in overnight bombings.


Wounded Palestinians are treated at al-Aqsa Martyrs Hospital after an Israeli attack

Twenty killed overnight taken to Al-Aqsa Hospital

Today we woke up to the sound of bombardment. We continue to hear the buzzing of Israeli surveillance drones in Deir el-Balah, which is now the most densely populated area in the entire strip.

At least 20 Palestinians were killed in overnight strikes in the middle area, including in az-Zuwayda and al-Mughraqa, alongside the Bureij refugee camp. Eight of these victims are children and eight are women.

Since Israel’s invasion of Gaza, about 70 percent of the 34,904 people killed in the enclave have been children and women.


The victims have been brought to al-Aqsa Hospital. Their bodies are lined up on the ground, with their families surrounding them with deep sadness and frustration. At least five children are among those killed. I saw a man holding his child in his arms, prepared to bury him.

The situation in the middle area is completely critical. This is the place where Palestinians in Rafah have been told to seek refuge.



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Gaza’s mass graves: Is the truth being uncovered?

Palestinian emergency workers are continuing to uncover mass graves in and around three hospitals in Gaza.

More than 500 bodies have so far been recovered, including several that show signs of mutilation and torture, according to Palestinian officials.

The UN, the US and the EU have called for an independent investigation, but with Israel’s closure of the Rafah border crossing and preventing any possible deployment of forensic teams or equipment into Gaza, burial sites are being dug up and evidence haphazardly collected.

Experts said the disturbance of sites where proof of war crimes might lie will make the search for truth harder – yet not all hopes for justice are lost.

 

Eighty bodies discovered in al-Shifa Hospital mass graves

The bodies of 80 Palestinians have been uncovered in three mass graves at al-Shifa Hospital, bringing the total number of bodies discovered in such graves in different sites throughout Gaza following the withdrawal of Israeli forces to 520, according to the Health Ministry in the besieged and bombarded territory.

There is “hard evidence” that some of the victims were “executed” at point-blank range, with bullet wounds found in their heads and chests, the ministry said.

Earlier this week, Palestinian officials said they had discovered a new mass grave at al-Shifa Hospital, which was sieged by Israeli forces in March, marking the seventh such grave found throughout Gaza since the start of Israel’s war.


People use a bulldozer to search for bodies at the Al-Shifa medical complex in Gaza City on May 8

Four al-Shifa Hospital medical staff killed, 42 detained

Among those found killed in al-Shifa Hospital are four health officials, said Gaza’s Health Ministry in a press statement, bringing the total number of medical staff killed during the war to 492.

In addition, the ministry said Israeli forces have detained 42 medical staff from the hospital, bringing the total number of detained health officials to 310.

The detained medical officials are held in “dire conditions” that threaten their lives, the ministry said, noting the recent death of surgeon Adnan al-Bursh in Israeli custody.

The ministry called on Israel to “immediately release all the medical staff…and to act swiftly to salvage what is left of our medical facility”.



‘Families are packing’ after Israel’s Rafah evacuation orders

Following Israel’s latest evacuation orders for parts of Rafah, Louise Wateridge, UNRWA’s communications manager, said that an estimated 150,000 people have fled Rafah so far.

“Everywhere you look now in west Rafah this morning, families are packing. The streets are noticeably empty,” Wateredge wrote on X.






Kuwaiti Hospital among places ‘threatened with evacuation’

Saheb al-Hams, a hospital director in Rafah, has said that “sadly” the Kuwaiti Specialty Hospital in Rafah city “is now included in the places threatened with evacuation” following Israel’s latest order.

“There is no other place for patients and injured people to go to but this hospital,” al-Hams said in a video message to journalists. The director called for “immediate international protection” for the medical facility.

Rafah residents ‘leaving for the unknown’

Palestinians taking shelter in eastern Rafah are fleeing after Israel issued an evacuation order.

The UN estimates more than 100,000 people have now evacuated while the Israeli forces say the figure is about 300,000.

“They called us three times, and the neighbours came and said get out quickly. They sent an evacuation order for the entire area. What should we do here? Do we wait until we all die on top of each other? So we decided to leave, it’s better,” said Hanan al-Satari, a Rafah resident.

Faten Lafi, another resident of the southern Gaza city, said: “We are forcibly leaving after the occupation army threatened us, through recorded calls and in a post published on Facebook. We are leaving because of fear and coercion. We are leaving for the unknown and there are no safe areas at all. All the areas left are unsafe.”



More uncertainty for Palestinians after new evacuation orders

The Israeli military has stated within the past 24 hours that the operation in Rafah is limited.

But what we’re seeing on the ground is more expansion of the military operations, the air strikes and the intense bombing campaign that started to include the central part of the city and the central-southern part of Rafah city close to the Kuwaiti Hospital and near areas where thousands of displaced families had set up their makeshift tents in the streets or inside evacuation zones sheltering from the horror of the war.

These new evacuation orders are sending people to new uncertainties; they don’t know where to go, particularly after the proof that they have that these “safe zones” designated by the Israeli military are not safe after all – people ended up being killed inside these designated zones.

More people have fled Rafah so far but there are still more who are trapped in areas unable to evacuate because of the intensity of the bombing and of the extreme force of the Israeli military.


‘We are abandoned by the world and everyone feels betrayed’

Islamic Relief has released a statement with the account of a staff member in Gaza while also condemning Israel’s latest evacuation orders that, it said, have created utter “chaos and panic”.



“I feel like this is the end. It feels like we will all be either trapped and killed in Gaza, or we will all be forced out. People have stayed in Rafah thinking it’s safe and hoping that global pressure would stop an invasion. But now we are abandoned by the world and everyone feels betrayed and let down.

“It’s an unimaginable scene, with tens of thousands of people looking for shelter. People are pale and thin, tired and afraid. There are children, women, elderly people and people with disabilities trying to flee in wheelchairs. Injured people have to leave hospital with recent bandages and bloodstains.

“In other parts of Gaza, the few bits of remaining land are now filling up with tents and shacks built of bits of wood and nylon.

“No humanitarian assistance has entered since Israel took over the Rafah crossing and Kerem (Karem) Abu Salem crossing closed. Bakeries have stopped working because they don’t have fuel, so we don’t have bread. We don’t have any water supply as that also depends on fuel deliveries, so yesterday we had to pay $50 just to refill our tank. Cars have stopped, so people coming from Rafah to the Middle Area are either walking or packed into vans carrying hundreds of people.

“Many people in Gaza are already suffering from famine, but now we are entering a new period of unprecedented hardship.”


No ‘safety’ in Khan Younis schools to where Palestinians are fleeing: UNRWA

The UN agency for Palestinian refugees released images of heavily damaged or destroyed schools it runs in Khan Younis in southern Gaza, to where many Palestinians have been forcibly displaced after the Israeli invasion of Rafah.

“The classrooms are torched. Walls are blown out. There is rubble everywhere,” it said, adding there is no real safety or shelter at these schools.

“This situation is unfolding under the world’s watch. Enough is enough.”





Number of killed people brought to Al-Aqsa Hospital rises to 30

The bodies of at least 30 killed Palestinians have now been brought to Al-Aqsa Hospital in Deir el-Balah, reports Al Jazeera’s Tareq Abou Azzoum from the medical facility. The victims include many elderly people, children and women, including some people who remain unidentified, he said.

Grief-stricken relatives of the victims who spoke to Al Jazeera said their loved ones were killed when their homes were attacked in the middle of the night with no prior warning.

‘Heartbreak’ in Al-Aqsa Hospital as attack victims pour in

Today I visited the morgue of Al-Aqsa Hospital, where the bodies of the killed Palestinians have been taken. The scenes were full of heartbreak.

I’ve been speaking to relatives of those killed away from the camera because they are in a very miserable condition. They told me they were sleeping peacefully when their homes were destroyed – and that they are lucky to have survived.

They said they had been following the orders of the Israeli military, escaping from the north to the middle area, only [for their relatives to be] killed in an area that is supposed to be a “safe zone”.

They are frustrated that they are still not afforded protection, saying they were hit with no prior warning and had done nothing wrong. They said they do not expect any end to the fighting in the foreseeable future.


Palestinians react next to the bodies of relatives killed in an Israeli strike, in Deir Al-Balah, Saturday

Israeli military operations ‘intensifying’ in northern Gaza’s Zeitoun

Israeli troops are engaging in fierce close-quarters battles in northern Gaza’s Zeitoun neighbourhood, where they have killed several fighters in recent hours and seized weaponry, according to an Israeli military statement.

Israeli forces are also pressing on with operations in Rafah, said the military, where they have also killed fighters and destroyed military sites. Throughout Gaza, Israel’s military has waged strikes on “tens” of targets over the last day, it said, hitting launch sites, observation posts and fighter positions.

There was no immediate comment by Hamas.

Group of 17 medics forced to evacuate ‘safe house’ in Rafah

Mosab Nasser, chief executive officer at FAJR Scientific, a non-profit US medical organisation, has told Al Jazeera that 17 medical personnel are currently stuck in Rafah after Israel seized the Rafah border crossing.

The group arrived on April 29 on a two-week mission, Nasser said, speaking from the European Gaza Hospital in Rafah.

“We were operating the first week of our mission with no problems and then the military operation started in eastern Rafah. But then it started trickling farther west where our safe house was,” he said.

“This morning we received the evacuation orders from Block 6 in Rafah where our safe house is – it is not longer safe – to evacuate, so we had to interrupt our work at the hospital and go back and pick up our stuff from the unsafe house and bring it back to the European Hospital,” he added.

Nasser said the Israeli military operation was not, as Israel claims, concentrated on eastern Rafah. “What we have experienced is completely otherwise. In fact, bombs were falling in the neighbourhood where we were, within a distance of less than 500 metres [0.3 miles] from the supposedly safe house, which put our physicians and surgeons at risk.”



US universities worry about funding cuts amid Gaza war protests

As we’ve been reporting, pro-Palestine protests have surged across dozens of US universities at the end of the academic year, bringing heightened US attention to Israel’s war on Gaza.

While student protesters are demanding their institutions divest from Israel, some university donors, angered by the unrest, have threatened to pull funding, putting university officials in a tight spot.



Harvard students name hall after Shireen Abu Akleh

Students at Harvard University in the US have named the hall after the veteran Al Jazeera journalist Shireen Abu Akleh who was killed two years ago by an Israeli sniper in the occupied West Bank city of Jenin.

Several human rights groups and media organisations found that the Israeli army was responsible for the killing of the Palestinian-American journalist.



Captives’ families demand deal after Hamas’s latest video release

The Hostages and Missing Families Forum in Israel has released a statement calling on the Israeli government to strike a deal following the release of the 11-second video by Hamas’s armed wing showing captive Nadav Popplewell.

“Every sign of life received from the hostages held by Hamas is another cry of distress to the Israeli government and its leaders,” the families’ group said in its statement. “We don’t have a moment to spare! You must strive to implement a deal that will bring them all back today.”

The video released earlier today was the third time in less than a month the Qassam Brigades posted footage of captives held in the Gaza Strip.


Captive died of wounds sustained in Israeli air raid: Hamas

Hamas’s armed wing has said in a statement that Nadav Popplewell has died of wounds that he sustained in an Israeli air raid more than a month ago.

Earlier, we reported that the Qassam Brigades released an 11-second video showing Popplewell, saying it will publish more information soon.

In the video, republished on social media and cited by Israeli news outlets, the 51-year-old is seen with a bruised eye confirming his name. Superimposed text in Arabic and Hebrew reads: “Time is running out. Your government is lying.”

Families urge protests to secure captives’ release, bring gov’t down

The families of the captives have just held the emergency news conference in Tel Aviv in which they called Israelis to take to the streets to “save Israel from Netanyahu” and secure the release of the people held in Gaza.

Here are some lines from their statement:

  • Hamas is regaining its hold in areas previously captured by Israel.
  • There is no strategy; the northern parts of the country are on fire, and the southern parts are now an active shooting range.
  • The evacuees are completely neglected. The disaster is growing. If we continue down this path, we will lose not only the hostages but the country itself.
  • Netanyahu is not only the obstacle preventing us from getting our hostages back. He’s also the obstacle preventing the state of Israel from succeeding. In order to save the hostages from Hamas, we must save Israel from Netanyahu.
  • To Gantz, Eisenkot, Gallant, members of the Likud party, of the coalition who still have a conscience: In order to rescue the hostages who are rotting in Hamas terror tunnels, in order to reach a hostage release deal quickly, in order to end the sabotage and to stop the criminal abandonment of the hostages, we call upon you – bring this government down.
  • The government does not care about the hostages, it is leading the entire country towards destruction. Stop cooperating with them, rescue the hostages and save the state of Israel. Come out and tell the public that in order to rescue the hostages we can and must end this war.
  • We, the families of the hostages, and the members of the public, must not give up. We will not stop until they are all brought back home.
  • Join us and take to the streets.
  • There’s no victory and there can be no victory without the return of the hostages. When we all take to the streets together, we will save the hostages and the country.