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Israel aims to ‘terrorise’ humanitarian relief groups in Gaza

Hamas accused Israel of targeting aid distribution sites to “terrorise” humanitarian organisations and stop them from helping the starving people of Gaza.

“We call on the international community and UN Security Council to denounce this heinous act, and to move towards putting an end to the occupation’s crimes and aggression against our people in the Gaza Strip,” Hamas said in a statement.

At least 196 humanitarian workers have now been killed in Gaza since October, according to the United Nations. Israel has been widely accused of holding up aid earmarked for Gaza, where hundreds of thousands of Palestinians face famine.



Target on their back’: Aid workers halt efforts after deadly Israeli strikes

American Near East Refugee Aid (Anera) is one humanitarian organisation among many that decided to halt its work in Gaza after the killing of seven aid workers from World Central Kitchen.

“This is something that we were forced to do to ensure our safety,” Sandra Rasheed, Anera’s Palestine country director, told Al Jazeera. “Our staff have guided our work, and they, themselves, feel like there’s a target on their backs.”

Rasheed said the decision to suspend operations was difficult because the situation for Palestinians worsens each day. She said her organisation was distributing close to 150,000 hot meals a day.

“I think the more that we have time to process this, the more surprising and shocking it is that three convoy vehicles were hit by three different bombs – through the roof of their car, which indicates a targeted killing,” she said.

“We are waiting to have some assurance from Israel and from the international community that doing this life-saving work will not constitute putting a target on our staff’s back.”

Palestinians fear food aid fallout after Israeli convoy killings

The Israeli military has attacked a house in central Deir el-Balah city, killing at least four civilians. Since early this morning, we’ve been hearing loud explosions in the southern city of Khan Younis. We could clearly feel the reverberations from our reporting position in Rafah.

Palestinians here are shocked and concerned about the repercussions of Israel’s attack on aid workers. World Central Kitchen is one of the main food distributors in the territory, providing more than 40 million meals since October.

Despite growing international calls to increase aid deliveries, this attack essentially brought humanitarian work to a standstill – despite thousands of Gaza residents staring down starvation conditions.





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Poland’s PM blasts Israeli leaders over aid attack

Israel’s air raids on the World Central Kitchen convoy that killed seven aid workers, including a Polish national, is undermining ties between Israel and Poland, says the country’s prime minister.

In a post on X, Donald Tusk said while the “vast majority of Poles showed full solidarity with Israel after the Hamas attack” on October 7, this solidarity is now being put “to a really hard test”.

“The tragic attack on volunteers and your reaction arouse understandable anger,” he said.


Polish prosecutors launch investigation into aid worker killing

Prosecutors in Przemysl, where Polish aid worker Damian Sobol is from, are independently investigating the circumstances of his killing in Gaza, Deputy District Prosecutor Beata Starzecka has told Poland’s PAP press agency.

Sobol, 35, was among seven aid workers killed by a succession of Israeli air strikes on their convoy in an attack that Poland’s prime minister said is putting Israel and Poland’s relations “to a hard test”.

The Israeli military has called the attack a “mistake” and promised to investigate how it happened. An investigation by Al Jazeera’s Sanad verification agency has found the attack was intentional.

Poland summons Israeli envoy over aid worker’s death: Report

Poland’s deputy foreign minister says he summoned Israel’s ambassador to discuss the death of a Polish aid worker killed in an Israeli strike in Gaza.

“I want to talk to the ambassador about the new situation in Polish-Israeli relations and about the moral, political and financial responsibility for the event that recently took place in the Gaza Strip”, Andrzej Szejna told the Polish state news agency PAP.




Questions in Israel over who ordered aid convoy strikes

In Israel, there’s been very little reaction to allegations that the attack on the World Central Kitchen convoy was deliberate.

However, there is a brewing controversy about how this actually happened. Whenever there is an Israeli military strike, there is a clear command-and-control structure. Someone in the command centre, a senior military person, needs to sign off on any strike that happens on vehicles. This is just standard practice.

So there was either a clear failure of that command-and-control structure or the attack was deliberate, which is what people are discussing right now.

If you speak to the Americans, the British, the Canadians, the Poles, and the Australians – whose citizens were killed in the attack – they are really pushing for a clear investigation. They want to know how this actually happened.

However, will the public see the results of the investigation, or will the Israelis say to the countries involved: “We’re going to give you the results, but we can’t make them public.”

Who authorised the Israeli air strikes on the aid convoy in Gaza?

Al Jazeera’s investigation into the deadly Israeli air strikes on the aid workers’ convoy shows three separate attacks on vehicles.

Omar Ashour, a professor of military and security studies at the Doha Institute of Graduate Studies, says after the first two vehicles were hit, there had to be communication among the Israeli military before the third was targeted, indicating “an intentional issue there”.

He said the great expense of the missiles used in the strikes “would need some command level” authorisation. However, he noted, the way the military operates, it may have been a less senior officer who ordered the strikes.

“The Israeli army has been fighting since 1948 onwards in a relatively decentralised way. The ‘tactical aggression’ is very high. They devolve junior officers to take quick decisions on the battlefield without going back to the senior ones. Interestingly, they took this from the Wehrmacht, the German army, in World War II,” Ashour told Al Jazeera.



Spanish PM: Israel’s explanation of aid worker attack ‘insufficient and unacceptable”

Pedro Sanchez, during a joint news conference with Qatar’s prime minister, has demanded further details from Israel about the killing of seven people working for World Central Kitchen in a Gaza air raid.

Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu called the incident “a tragic event in which our forces unintentionally harmed non-combatants”, adding that “this happens in war”.

“That is unacceptable and insufficient, and we are awaiting a much stronger and more detailed clarification, after which we’ll see what action to take,” Sanchez said.

World Central Kitchen was founded by Spanish American chef Jose Andres.

World Central Kitchen founder: Israel must ‘stop killing civilians today’

Jose Andres, the celebrity chef who founded World Central Kitchen, penned an op-ed for Israeli news site Ynet following the Israeli attack on his organisation’s aid convoy that killed seven staff.

“The air strikes on our convoy were not just some unfortunate mistake in the fog of war. It was a direct attack on clearly marked vehicles whose movements were known by the [Israeli military],” writes Andres. “It was also the direct result of his [PM Netanyahu’s] government’s policy to squeeze humanitarian aid to desperate levels.”

He adds: “Israel is better than the way this war is being waged. It is better than blocking food and medicine to civilians. It is better than killing aid workers who coordinate their movements.

“The Israeli government needs to open land routes to food and medicine today. It needs to stop killing civilians and aid workers today. It needs to start the long journey to peace today.”



‘Situation is becoming unbearable,’ British PM tells Netanyahu

UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak spoke with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu last night following the killing of foreign aid workers, including three British citizens, saying he is “appalled”.

“Too many aid workers and innocent civilians have lost their lives in Gaza, the situation is becoming unbearable,” a government statement quoted Sunak as saying.

“The UK expects to see immediate action by Israel to end restrictions on humanitarian aid, deconflict with the UN and aid agencies, protect civilians, and repair vital infrastructure like hospitals and water networks.”

Sunak “reiterated that Israel’s rightful aim of defeating Hamas would not be achieved by allowing a humanitarian catastrophe in Gaza”.



US says Israel has not violated international law during Gaza war



White House says aid worker killings should not affect ceasefire talks

The US does not expect the Israeli strike that killed seven World Central Kitchen workers in Gaza to impact talks on an Israel-Hamas ceasefire and releases of captives and Palestinian prisoners, the White House says.

“The ceasefire and hostage negotiations are ongoing,” White House national security spokesman John Kirby told reporters at a briefing. “I wouldn’t anticipate any particular impact on those discussions as a result of the strike yesterday.”

Translation: There won't be a ceasefire. Just like Israel, the US has enjoyed impunity for far too long. Who is going to hold the USA accountable though. Just as with Russia the UNSC is powerless due to vetoes. The whole political side of the UN only serves to control other countries.



UK faces pressure to stop selling weapons to Israel after aid workers killed

The three main British opposition parties and some lawmakers in the governing party have urged the British government to consider suspending arms sales.

The Liberal Democrats called for arms exports to Israel to be suspended, while the Scottish National Party also backed that move and said parliament should be recalled from its Easter break to discuss the crisis.

The main opposition Labour Party, who polls suggest will form the next government later this year, adopted a nuanced approach, saying the government should suspend arms sales if lawyers have found Israel had broken international law.

Most UK voters support ban on arms exports to Israel: Poll

A survey conducted by polling firm YouGov found that 56 percent of all voters in the United Kingdom are in favour of a ban on sending weapons to Israel, including spare parts for weapons systems.

Fifty-nine percent of voters say that Israel is violating human rights in Gaza, the poll also found.

Among the UK’s different political parties, an overwhelming 71 percent of Labour voters favour an arms export ban, while 70 percent of Liberal Democrat voters agree. As for Conservative Party voters, 38 percent support the ban, still higher than the 36 percent who do not.

This poll was conducted before an Israeli attack killed seven aid workers of World Central Kitchen in Deir el-Balah.

UN suspend aid movements at night in Gaza

Spokesperson Stephane Dujarric has announced that the UN has suspended movements at night in the Gaza Strip for at least 48 hours to evaluate security issues. The suspension, which began on Tuesday, follows Israel’s killing of seven aid workers in the enclave.

The World Food Programme is continuing operations during the day, including daily efforts to send convoys to the north of Gaza “where people are dying,” Dujarric said.

“As famine closes in we need humanitarian staff and supplies to be able to move freely and safely across the Gaza Strip,” he told reporters.


Undelivered Gaza aid returned to Cyprus

 

World Central Kitchen founder says Israel targeted his aid workers ‘systematically’

Celebrity chef and founder of World Central Kitchen (WCK) Jose Andres says an Israeli attack that killed seven of the NGO’s food aid workers in Gaza had targeted them “systematically, car by car”.

Speaking in a video interview with Reuters news agency, Andres said the WCK charity group had clear communication with the Israeli military, which he said knew his aid workers’ movements.

This was not a “bad luck situation where, ‘oops,’ we dropped the bomb in the wrong place,” Andres said. “Even if we were not in coordination with the [Israeli army], no democratic country and no military can be targeting civilians and humanitarians.”

Andres said he was supposed to be with his team but for various reasons “wasn’t able to go back again to Gaza”



Gaza media office marks ‘six months of aggression’

Gaza’s media office says it released updated “key figures” to mark 180 days since Israel launched its deadly assault on the besieged enclave.

Here are some of the most notable figures, according to the office:

  • At least 32,975 Palestinians have been killed, including 14,500 children.
  • Thousands more remain missing or trapped under the rubble.
  • At least 484 medical staff members have been killed.
  • More than 75,500 Palestinians have sustained injuries.
  • Around 17,000 children have lost either one or both parents.
  • More than one million people have been affected by infectious diseases due to repeated displacement.
  • More than 300 medical staff members and 12 journalists have been arrested by Israeli forces.
  • At least two million Palestinians are now internally displaced in Gaza.
  • 70,000 housing units have been completely destroyed.

 

Israel’s use of Lavender system is ‘an AI-assisted genocide’: Expert

In a recent report published by the Israeli-Palestinian publication +972 Magazine and Hebrew-language media outlet Local Call, it was revealed that the Israeli army identified tens of thousands of Gaza Palestinians as potential targets using an AI targeting system called, “Lavender”.

Marc Owen Jones, an assistant professor in Middle East Studies and digital humanities at Hamid bin Khalifa University, spoke to Al Jazeera about the report:

“It is becoming increasingly clear that Israel is deploying untested AI systems that have not gone through transparent evaluation to help make decisions about the life and death of civilians,” he said in an interview.

“The fact that the operators can tweak the algorithms based on pressure from senior officers to find more targets suggests they are actually devolving accountability and selection to AI and using a computer system to avoid moral accountability.”

“The operators themselves have pointed to how the AI is simply an efficient killing machine,” he said, “and it is explicitly not used to reduce civilian casualties but to find more targets”.

“This helps explain how over 32,000 people have been killed. Let’s be clear: This is an AI-assisted genocide, and going forward, there needs to be a call for a moratorium on the use of AI in the war.

He added, “It’s unlikely, without pressure from Israel’s allies, that there will be an end to [AI’s] use.”

Israel’s use of the ‘Lavender’ system violates the principle of distinction: Expert

Professor Toby Walsh, an AI expert at the University of New South Wales in Sydney, Australia, spoke to Al Jazeera about Israel’s AI Lavender system used to target tens of thousands of Palestinians in Gaza.

He said the system “helps explain the terrible rate of collateral death” in the enclave, in part due to the fact that it is not 100 percent accurate and also because Israeli military leadership is “prepared to kill 20 innocent people for every combatant [and even up to 100 for a senior figure in Hamas]”.

Legal scholars will likely argue that this violates international humanitarian law, Walsh said.

“The principle of distinction requires you not to target civilians”, he said, adding that in using the system, the Israeli forces were aware that it was intentionally using a system that they knew violated this.

“And the principle of proportionality requires that collateral casualties are proportional to the threat. Twenty [civilian] deaths for one Hamas fighter is not proportional”, he explained.

“From a technical perspective, this latest news shows how hard it is to keep a human in the loop, providing meaningful oversight to AI systems that scale warfare terribly and tragically,” he said.

Israel could be committing war crimes of ‘disproportionate attacks’ with AI system: UN expert

Ben Saul, the UN special rapporteur for human rights and counterterrorism, has said that reports the Israeli army decided it was permissible to kill 15 or 20 Palestinians for every junior Hamas operative could constitute war crimes.

“If true, many Israeli strikes in Gaza would constitute the war crimes of launching disproportionate attacks,” said Saul in a post on social media.

Saul was responding to a report in +972 Magazine and Hebrew-language media outlet Local Call, which revealed the Israeli army has identified tens of thousands of Gaza Palestinians as potential targets using an AI targeting system called “Lavender”.

 

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Israeli attack on aid workers part of ‘a structure of death and destruction’: Open Arms

Open Arms, the Spanish NGO working with World Central Kitchen, whose aid workers were the victims of Israel’s attack, posted a tribute on X.

“The end of mission 110 arrives, the one we never could have imagined, the most painful. We miss Saifeddin, Zomi, Damian, Jacob, John, Jim, and James, but they will remain forever in our memory”

The NGO added that it will continue to speak up for the seven aid workers, the more than 32,500 people killed in Gaza, the hundreds of humanitarian workers, the destroyed hospitals, journalists and all the ‘isolated cases’ that are not just accidents, but “part of a structure of death and destruction”.




WCK aid worker killings are a ‘message to the world’

Dr Marwan al-Hams, director of al-Najjar Hospital in Rafah, says that the killing of seven aid workers by the Israeli army is a wake-up call for the world’s governments to stop supporting the Israeli government and war effort with weapons.







UN General Assembly president ‘deeply concerned’ by Damascus attack, calls for restraint

Dennis Francis, the president of the UN General Assembly, says he is “deeply concerned about the risk of escalation following the recent attack in Damascus”.

Francis called for “restraint to avoid further harm and suffering to the people in the Middle East”.

“The inviolability of diplomatic premises and diplomatic staff must be respected at all times,” said Francis, who is the current president of the 193-member UN General Assembly.

The Israeli army is reportedly calling up reservists for its Iron Dome and other air defence systems as Iran has promised to respond to an alleged Israeli attack on the Iranian consulate in Damascus.




Quelle surprise

Spokesperson suggests US will not support Palestine’s bid for full UN membership

US State Department spokesperson Matthew Miller has said the question of Palestinian statehood should be determined by “direct negotiations” and “not at the United Nations”, in response to a question on the Palestinian Authority’s push for a vote on full UN membership.

“You’ve seen [US Secretary of State Antony Blinken] engage in very intensive diplomacy over the past few months to try to establish a Palestinian state with security guarantees for Israel,” said Miller.

Miller did not directly say whether the US would veto a UN Security Council vote, which the Palestinian Authority wants to take place this month.

About 140 of the UN’s 193 members have recognised Palestine as a state, but new member states must first be approved by the UN Security Council before obtaining a two-thirds majority in the UN General Assembly.

The Palestinian Authority has held non-member observer status at the United Nations since 2012, but although more than the required two-thirds of the UN General Assembly recognise Palestinian statehood, its application first needs to be approved by the 15-member Security Council.

 



CNN investigation agrees with Aljazeera

Israeli attack that killed aid workers consistent with multiple precision strikes, analysis shows

https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/03/middleeast/world-central-kitchen-strike-analysis-intl/index.html

Some new information:

Explosive weapons expert Chris Cobb-Smith told CNN on Tuesday that the strikes appeared to have been carried out by an Israeli drone.

Cobb-Smith, a former British Army artillery officer and munitions expert, said the heavy damage to the three vehicles was consistent with the use of “highly accurate drone fired missiles,” adding it was “hard to believe” the tragic incident was an accident.

The drone that fired the fatal missiles would have been operated in conjunction with a surveillance drone, Cobb-Smith said, meaning the Israeli military would have had total visibility of the cars, including the WCK logo. The “limited blast” and “considerable localized destruction” seen in photos and videos of the aftermath are also consistent with an Israeli UAV strike, he added.

Cobb-Smith told CNN missile fragments would be needed to definitively identify the exact munition used in the strike.

Patrick Senft, a research coordinator at Armament Research Services (ARES), told CNN: “without munition fragments, I can’t say anything for certain, but the damage to the vehicles appears consistent with precision guided munitions with a small explosive payload.” Senft added that the aftermath of the strike “seems consistent with munitions deployed by UAVs.”


Israeli newspaper Haaretz reported on Tuesday that “an Israeli drone fired three missiles one after the other” at the WCK aid convoy as it drove away from the non-profit’s distribution center, citing “defense sources familiar with the details” of the incident.

Defense sources told Haaretz the missiles were launched from a Hermes 450 drone “because of suspicion that a terrorist was traveling with the convoy,” on a food truck. The report adds that though neither the armed man nor the truck he was traveling on left the warehouse, “the war room of the unit responsible for security of the route ordered the drone operators to attack one of the cars with a missile,” according to Haaretz’s defense sources.


That doesn't make any sense. “the war room of the unit responsible for security of the route ordered the drone operators to attack one of the cars with a missile,” And why attack the other 2 cars as well, and who/where is this supposed armed terrorist at WCK. The Hasbara wheels are spinning.



Just let Israel investigate itself and get back to us at one point, some time, in the future, maybe, we'll get an answer. In the meantime, please don't point out all the evidence that suggests this was intentional, third party investigations do not count.

I also find the attention the media is giving to these aid workers to be disproportionate, when there has been indisputable evidence that the murdering of Hind Rajab, her cousin, the ambulance that went out to save her was intentional, among countless other documented genocidal stories.

Foreign aid workers are tragically killed like most of the deaths of Gazans and we're meant to care more, as if we don't like like a joke on the world as things are.

Give me a break the racism card has been used for a lot less over the past 10 years. Don't get me wrong, there should be a swift and firm response from the UK government for the 3 British people who died, but this has been the case for 6 months.

But hey, the most documented genocide of our time keeps on living, growing, exposing every hypocrite sick fuck out there. Can you imagine if journalists were actually allowed to do their job in Gaza?



Let's see how long this spokesman last. Also western "democracies" continue to be a joke. 

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