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Original vs New design?

Original 27 45.00%
 
New 18 30.00%
 
Where is the PS6? 15 25.00%
 
Total:60
Signalstar said:

It definitely can be considered a slim model.

They actually made it smaller in addition to adding the removable disk drive.

Also note that the price of this Digital model is actually higher at $449.99. $50 higher than the original Digital model. I guess they are charging you for the ability to add the drive down the line.

I'm happy with my original model but this is a good revision, 3 years after launch.

It is just that the cost of the drive is much smaller than 100 (not even 35) so they are just increasing their profitability and disguising a price hike with a new model.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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Zkuq said:
IcaroRibeiro said:

There is not enough competition and options to yield mass boycott unfortunately. Console bussines has a very high entry bareer and most companies simply don't know how to play against the Big 3. The only options left is to stop gaming and go spending money on something else i.e. let the industry die. It's not exactly a very wise decision if you're a gamer. 

There are gaming options outside the big three though. PC has been my main platform for a very long time, and right now it's mainly Sony that is suffering from it. That's also not the only alternative. Of course you get a different kind of an experience in at least some ways, but the point is that there are alternatives - you don't have to stand the big three.

AMD and mainly NVidia aren't good examples of price sensitiveness to be offered as alternatives to Sony/MS/Nintendo not reducing the price of their consoles.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari said:
Zkuq said:

There are gaming options outside the big three though. PC has been my main platform for a very long time, and right now it's mainly Sony that is suffering from it. That's also not the only alternative. Of course you get a different kind of an experience in at least some ways, but the point is that there are alternatives - you don't have to stand the big three.

AMD and mainly NVidia aren't good examples of price sensitiveness to be offered as alternatives to Sony/MS/Nintendo not reducing the price of their consoles.

I was responding to the lack of alternatives and competition and not (just) pricing. Prices aren't great at the moment, but there's definitely some competition, which might or might not make sense depending on various factors. The big three aren't free to do whatever they wish with no regard to other companies.



Zkuq said:
DonFerrari said:

AMD and mainly NVidia aren't good examples of price sensitiveness to be offered as alternatives to Sony/MS/Nintendo not reducing the price of their consoles.

I was responding to the lack of alternatives and competition and not (just) pricing. Prices aren't great at the moment, but there's definitely some competition, which might or might not make sense depending on various factors. The big three aren't free to do whatever they wish with no regard to other companies.

The big 3 is one more than the 2 on PC, and majority of the userbase of either don't change from PC to console and vice-versa because of policies they don't like. So saying "hey you don't like Sony not cutting the price for their PS5 new version and keeping 500 change to a 750 PC of similar capacity" doesn't really give "alternatives".



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari said:
Zkuq said:

I was responding to the lack of alternatives and competition and not (just) pricing. Prices aren't great at the moment, but there's definitely some competition, which might or might not make sense depending on various factors. The big three aren't free to do whatever they wish with no regard to other companies.

The big 3 is one more than the 2 on PC, and majority of the userbase of either don't change from PC to console and vice-versa because of policies they don't like. So saying "hey you don't like Sony not cutting the price for their PS5 new version and keeping 500 change to a 750 PC of similar capacity" doesn't really give "alternatives".

There is definitely some competition between the two camps, and Intel has also been trying to enter the GPU market, so make that at least 2½ in the PC camp as well. If GPU prices were what they were three years ago, I bet the consoles would be cheaper too, because PC gaming would seem quite a bit more attractive than it seems now. Yes, there is probably a large portion of the console market that doesn't really see PC gaming as an an attractive option, but the big three can't just ignore PC gaming either. It's competition, perhaps just not as fierce as within the console market.



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If that China company ever decided to expand to the US it would be a 3rd competitor. They only make CPU/GPUs for china and from what I hear are pretty alright. Not quite on the level of AMD/Nvidia but not that far behind either. Wish I could remember the name.



Bite my shiny metal cockpit!

Zkuq said:
DonFerrari said:

The big 3 is one more than the 2 on PC, and majority of the userbase of either don't change from PC to console and vice-versa because of policies they don't like. So saying "hey you don't like Sony not cutting the price for their PS5 new version and keeping 500 change to a 750 PC of similar capacity" doesn't really give "alternatives".

There is definitely some competition between the two camps, and Intel has also been trying to enter the GPU market, so make that at least 2½ in the PC camp as well. If GPU prices were what they were three years ago, I bet the consoles would be cheaper too, because PC gaming would seem quite a bit more attractive than it seems now. Yes, there is probably a large portion of the console market that doesn't really see PC gaming as an an attractive option, but the big three can't just ignore PC gaming either. It's competition, perhaps just not as fierce as within the console market.

Well the reason for the PC parts and consoles to be more expensive than before is the cost of the silicon have gone up for everyone, but unless you hunt for deals and luck out consoles will be more budget friendly than buying a whole PC of similar spec.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Looks like slim is the jenny Craig version 🤣



DonFerrari said:
Zkuq said:

There is definitely some competition between the two camps, and Intel has also been trying to enter the GPU market, so make that at least 2½ in the PC camp as well. If GPU prices were what they were three years ago, I bet the consoles would be cheaper too, because PC gaming would seem quite a bit more attractive than it seems now. Yes, there is probably a large portion of the console market that doesn't really see PC gaming as an an attractive option, but the big three can't just ignore PC gaming either. It's competition, perhaps just not as fierce as within the console market.

Well the reason for the PC parts and consoles to be more expensive than before is the cost of the silicon have gone up for everyone, but unless you hunt for deals and luck out consoles will be more budget friendly than buying a whole PC of similar spec.

Yes. I guess I chose my words poorly, since my point was that there is pressure, and not that GPUs having been more affordable in the past bears any relevance today.



Leynos said:

If that China company ever decided to expand to the US it would be a 3rd competitor. They only make CPU/GPUs for china and from what I hear are pretty alright. Not quite on the level of AMD/Nvidia but not that far behind either. Wish I could remember the name.

Zhihui's IDM929 ? MTT S80? Metax, Glenfly, IMGTec?

There is a word salad of Chinese manufacturers (and new ones appear on a yearly basis).

Best performance is around low end GeForce400 series gpu, so years behind "the real stuff".