What makes the Xbox and PC community different to the PS community? Lol. Not sure why you think Sea of Thieves will flop when it has been very successful on both Xbox and PC and highly rated in recent times. Unless PlayStation gamers hate multiplayer titles, Lol. I mean, there's still nothing out there like Sea of Thieves, some will hate it, some will like it, but I don't think it even has a direct competitor in the way some other games do, I could see it doing millions on PlayStation easily.

Ps community dont give shits about GAAS games, they tried so many all them flopped , only a couple like the biggest didnt. Sony and nintendo fanbases are much more single player focused.

I am sure you see all over net psfans shitting on the supposed rumoured gaas ps strategy that didnt even started and its hated.

I think you're making the mistake of conflating the internets opinion with the wider market which is way larger and diverse than Twitter/Forum/Reddit. Everyone on the internet talks shit about GAAS on the internet, not just Sony users, it doesn't stop them from being huge hits though. Genuine question but how many GAAS has Sony actually tried? What ones flopped and when?

I also remember seeing a lot of people excited for The Last of Us Factions or saying Sony should bring back SOCOM.

The PlayStation fanbase is so huge (we're talking an install-base of around 100m) that the community is more than big enough and thus diverse enough in interests to support both. The PlayStation 4 and 5 took a lot of Xbox's userbase as well, a lot of multiplayer focused gamers. The most played list for Xbox and PlayStation isn't that different overall.

What were the most popular games of 2023 on PlayStation? Well, they were all multiplayer/multiplayer focused titles such as Fortnite, Rocket League, Fifa 23, Call of Duty, Grand Theft Auto V, Apex Legends, Genshin Impact, I'm sure as well if we had a top 20 list we'd also find Roblox, Rainbow Six Siege, Overwatch 2, Destiny 2, etc, on that list.

Announced at CES, PSN has reached a new MAU record.

123m MAU's in December 2023, compared to 112m they had in December 2022.

Wow so a lot of new users to the userbase it seems like and a healthy number of PS4 (and perhaps even PS3 users) still active like 70+M.

I think you're making the mistake of conflating the internets opinion with the wider market which is way larger and diverse than Twitter/Forum/Reddit. Everyone on the internet talks shit about GAAS on the internet, not just Sony users, it doesn't stop them from being huge hits though. Genuine question but how many GAAS has Sony actually tried? What ones flopped and when?

I also remember seeing a lot of people excited for The Last of Us Factions or saying Sony should bring back SOCOM.

The PlayStation fanbase is so huge (we're talking an install-base of around 100m) that the community is more than big enough and thus diverse enough in interests to support both. The PlayStation 4 and 5 took a lot of Xbox's userbase as well, a lot of multiplayer focused gamers. The most played list for Xbox and PlayStation isn't that different overall.

What were the most popular games of 2023 on PlayStation? Well, they were all multiplayer/multiplayer focused titles such as Fortnite, Rocket League, Fifa 23, Call of Duty, Grand Theft Auto V, Apex Legends, Genshin Impact, I'm sure as well if we had a top 20 list we'd also find Roblox, Rainbow Six Siege, Overwatch 2, Destiny 2, etc, on that list.

The MAU's for Feb 2023 by platform leaked last month.

PSN Active Accounts - 105.6m (+0.7% YoY)
PS4 Active Accounts - 71.5m (-16% YoY)
PS5 Active Accounts - 37.1m (+82% YoY)
Off-Console Active Accounts (Signing into PSN on PC/Mobile) - 26.3m (+13% YoY)
PS3 Active Accounts - 1.9m (-51% YoY)

Note that the individual platform numbers add up to above 105.6m because they are removing duplicates from people signing into multiple platforms in the same month.

Based on PS5 sales this year, Active users in Dec 2022 and the YoY changes for early 2023 I'd guess for December it looks something like this:

PSN Active Accounts - 123m
PS4 Active Accounts - 61m
PS5 Active Accounts - 59m
Off-Console Active Accounts (Signing into PSN on PC/Mobile) - 31m
PS3 Active Accounts - 1m

Could be quite a long way out on PS4, maybe it declined faster this year, but just a rough guess.

Ps community dont give shits about GAAS games

I am sure you see all over net psfans shitting on the supposed rumoured gaas ps strategy that didnt even started and its hated.

ClassicGamingWizzz said:

they tried so many all them flopped

Zippy and Ryuu already covered this part better than I will.

Despite the large criticism of live service games on the internet, live service games pretty much dominate. GTA, Minecraft, CoD. Most big publishers have a live service title. Square has Final Fantasy XIV. EA has Apex Legends, Battlefield, etc. Blizzard has WoW, Overwatch, Diablo. Epic Games has Fortnite. Activision has CoD. Microsoft has Minecraft, Sea of Thieves, etc. Sony has MLB The Show, Gran Turismo (though they seemingly don't consider it as such).

A lot of gamers online hate mobile, and yet mobile dwarfs the console industry.  

One issue I think is that people define live service differently. 

There was a YouTuber that defined it as simply a game that required internet, that was the one thing that every "live service" game had in common. 

I think fundamentally the idea is that games get updated, either through microtransactions, game updates.

Minecraft gets frequent updates, so it's a live service game. But it doesn't require internet all the time, so that one YouTuber that I saw several years ago, might not consider it a live service title. 

A lot of single player games flop too. Shuhei said several years ago, during the PS4 era that only a few of their games make money. Something like 3-4/10 break even, and one of those makes up for the other 6-7. 
And that is largely a single player driven statistic.

I think there is one particular big reason why live service games get more notoriety for failing. It's because a lot of them basically "fail" twice. 

Single player games usually fail when they launch.
If a live service game fails, you hear it when it launches, and when they shut it down. 

Basically there are arguably more chances for a live service game to get reported on.

There are other issues as well, but that I think is a big one. Live service games are like putting your eggs in one basket. If it's successful that's great, until you can no longer support the basket. 

And very critically there's more competition now in the live service space. Everyone wants to make the next Fortnite, and there aren't enough gamers/money/time to support everyone to have their own Fortnite.