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Ryuu96 said:

An estimated 30% to 40% fewer international students are expected on American college campuses in the fall of 2025, compared with trends in the 2024-2025 academic year, according to according to NAFSA: Association of International Educators – a nonprofit that focuses on international education – and JB International, a for-profit educational technology firm.

In total, an estimated 150,000 fewer international students were expected to arrive this fall, due to new visa restrictions and visa appointments being canceled at U.S. embassies and consulates in many countries, such as India, China, Nigeria and Japan. NAFSA and JB International are expected to release updated data on international student enrollment in November 2025.

There were over 1.1 million international students – more than half of whom were from China or India – on American college campuses in the 2023-2024 academic year, according to the Institute for International Education, which monitors foreign student programs and shares the most comprehensive available recent data.

This sharp drop in international students could cost the U.S. economy US$7 billion in the 2025-26 school year, according to estimates from NAFSA.

For every three international students in the U.S., one new American job is created or supported by the average $35,000 these students spend in their local communities on housing, food and transportation, and other costs.

As a senior fellow at the Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy at Tufts University and a former undersecretary of state for public diplomacy in the Obama administration, I oversaw many of the student exchange programs involving multiple countries around the globe. I foresee a major economic crisis over international students that could last for years.

Fewer international students are coming to the US, costing universities and communities that benefit from these visitors

Free thinkers leaving the US while they can and at the same tile less coming to study (and then stay to work and contribute to the society and it's economy and achievements) in the US, the big double whammy.

Begun, the US brain drain has.



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Fox News is suggesting that homeless people who refuse state provided services be euthanized.

But the left are the hateful ones because we dont cry when one right wing nut shoots another.



JWeinCom said:

Thanks for the info. Will have to read more into it before I can respond to most of it, as a lot of it is new info to me, and I try my best not to limit speaking on matters I don't fully understand. But I did read it all, and genuinely appreciate you taking the time to lay it out.

My understanding is that Hamas platform specifically rejects a two state solution. From the river to the sea I believe is their motto, referring to the Jordan River to the Mediterranean sea, borders which would encompass all of Israel. What this would hypothetically mean for the people currently living in Israel is unclear, however if Hamas were to remain an active presence, their record on religious liberty is suspect to put it mildly.

Definitely agree that the expanding settlements and the Israeli violence which accompanies them is a massive problem which almost certainly is a violation of international law. The announced plans to expand them has certainly changed my view of things.

That's mostly Israeli propaganda. Hamas was formed after Likud adopted the slogan as their party platform. Hamas turned it around and made it rhyme for it to catch on. "From the river to the sea, Palestine shall be free."

The original Hamas platform was very reactionary, they updated their party platform in 2017

https://www.wilsoncenter.org/article/doctrine-hamas

In 2017, a revised Hamas manifesto included three departures from the 1988 charter, former U.S. diplomat Aaron David Miller told The Islamists. First, Hamas accepted the establishment of a Palestinian state separate from Israel —although only provisionally. Its statement on principles and policies said, “Hamas rejects any alternative to the full and complete liberation of Palestine, from the river to the sea. However, without compromising its rejection of the Zionist entity and without relinquishing any Palestinian rights, Hamas considers the establishment of a fully sovereign and independent Palestinian state, with Jerusalem as its capital along the lines of the 4th of June 1967, with the return of the refugees and the displaced to their homes from which they were expelled, to be a formula of national consensus.” Second, it attempted to distinguish between Jews or Judaism and modern Zionism. Hamas said that its fight was against the “racist, aggressive, colonial and expansionist” Zionist project, Israel, but not against Judaism or Jews. The updated platform also lacked some of the anti-Semitic language of the 1988 charter. Third, the document did not reference the Palestinian Muslim Brotherhood, from which Hamas was originally an offshoot.

Hence Hamas always states their fight is with the "Zionist entity", not with Israel per se, not against Judaism.



Just to flip the mirror on lying right-wingers who have recently been blaming the left wing for violence.

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I describe myself as a little dose of toxic masculinity.

SvennoJ said:
JWeinCom said:

Thanks for the info. Will have to read more into it before I can respond to most of it, as a lot of it is new info to me, and I try my best not to limit speaking on matters I don't fully understand. But I did read it all, and genuinely appreciate you taking the time to lay it out.

My understanding is that Hamas platform specifically rejects a two state solution. From the river to the sea I believe is their motto, referring to the Jordan River to the Mediterranean sea, borders which would encompass all of Israel. What this would hypothetically mean for the people currently living in Israel is unclear, however if Hamas were to remain an active presence, their record on religious liberty is suspect to put it mildly.

Definitely agree that the expanding settlements and the Israeli violence which accompanies them is a massive problem which almost certainly is a violation of international law. The announced plans to expand them has certainly changed my view of things.

That's mostly Israeli propaganda. Hamas was formed after Likud adopted the slogan as their party platform. Hamas turned it around and made it rhyme for it to catch on. "From the river to the sea, Palestine shall be free."

The original Hamas platform was very reactionary, they updated their party platform in 2017

https://www.wilsoncenter.org/article/doctrine-hamas

In 2017, a revised Hamas manifesto included three departures from the 1988 charter, former U.S. diplomat Aaron David Miller told The Islamists. First, Hamas accepted the establishment of a Palestinian state separate from Israel —although only provisionally. Its statement on principles and policies said, “Hamas rejects any alternative to the full and complete liberation of Palestine, from the river to the sea. However, without compromising its rejection of the Zionist entity and without relinquishing any Palestinian rights, Hamas considers the establishment of a fully sovereign and independent Palestinian state, with Jerusalem as its capital along the lines of the 4th of June 1967, with the return of the refugees and the displaced to their homes from which they were expelled, to be a formula of national consensus.” Second, it attempted to distinguish between Jews or Judaism and modern Zionism. Hamas said that its fight was against the “racist, aggressive, colonial and expansionist” Zionist project, Israel, but not against Judaism or Jews. The updated platform also lacked some of the anti-Semitic language of the 1988 charter. Third, the document did not reference the Palestinian Muslim Brotherhood, from which Hamas was originally an offshoot.

How is it Israeli propaganda when it is literally in their charter? The updated version you just posted? The most charitable interpretation is that they want an Islamic state that encompasses present day Israel which would allow Israelis to remain.



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JWeinCom said:
Ryuu96 said:

The media is completely failing us in this moment.

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— Alejandra Caraballo (@esqueer.net) 13 September 2025 at 10:50

As an update, the Guardian has retracted the original story after being unable to verify the original source. Unsurprising. They are still trying to find a way to blame this on the left. The current best attempt is claiming that after living his whole life in Maga world, one semester at a university turned him into a cold blooded killer.

He lived with a Trans partner (romantically).
He got visits (in and out) from out of state, trans individuals like two weeks before all this went down.
Neighbor eyewitnesses claim "they were giving off a bad vibe".
Supposedly 6 individuals tied to visits of him, had prior knowledge of the shooting. (insidewire claims fbi is investigating it)

One of them, calls themselves Skylar Webster (not their real name, but self chosen one), wrote:
"You guys... I have something BIG coming soon. Just be sure the check the news, you'll know it when see it wink smily"
(that was 5 days before the shooting)

Like Minuets after the shooting he followed up with:
"Well that's that"  and "another chud bities the dust"

Then going onto do a +like train on any post celebrating the shooting.


Source : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-r-6iiZgQO8

Your probably not going to like the guy's video, hes very fight leaning.


"The current best attempt is claiming that after living his whole life in Maga world, one semester at a university turned him into a cold blooded killer."

Nah, he grew up surrounded by right leaning people, probably opposed to "being gay" "furries" and trans individuals.
Guy just kept quiet. He was/is gay found himself a trans boyfriend (girlfriend?)... and that was that.
That's likely not just 1 semester... its living his life suppressing his feelings, and meeting other left wing people that encouraged violence.

The trans partner undoubtedly knew about this, along with these people that visited him and maybe supplied him with weapons ect.

Yes the left does seem like it commits less violence, overall. However it can still happen.

Last edited by JRPGfan - on 14 September 2025

JRPGfan said:

He lived with a Trans partner (romantically).
He got visits (in and out) from out of state, trans individuals like two weeks before all this went down.
Neighbor eyewitnesses claim "they were giving off a bad vibe".
Supposedly 6 individuals tied to visits of him, had prior knowledge of the shooting. (insidewire claims fbi is investigating it)

One of them, calls themselves Skylar Webster (not their real name, but self chosen one), wrote:
"You guys... I have something BIG coming soon. Just be sure the check the news, you'll know it when see it wink smily"
(that was 5 days before the shooting)

Like Minuets after the shooting he followed up with:
"Well that's that"  and "another chud bities the dust"

Then going onto do a +like train on any post celebrating the shooting.


Source : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-r-6iiZgQO8

Your probably not going to like the guy's video, hes very fight leaning.


"The current best attempt is claiming that after living his whole life in Maga world, one semester at a university turned him into a cold blooded killer."

Nah, he grew up surrounded by right leaning people, probably opposed to "being gay" "furries" and trans individuals.
Guy just kept quiet. He was/is gay found himself a trans boyfriend (girlfriend?)... and that was that.
That's likely not just 1 semester... its living his life suppressing his feelings, and meeting other left wing people that encouraged violence.

The trans partner undoubtedly knew about this, along with these people that visited him and maybe supplied him with weapons ect.

Yes the left does seem like it commits less violence, overall. However it can still happen.

Living and having a transgender partner doesn't mean you are left-wing. Otherwise, all of Blair White's boyfriends would be left-wing. 

There are plenty of hyper-masc (or aspirationally hyper-masc), right-wingers who fetishize transgender people. You can go on Grindr and find half a dozen of them in 30 minutes. Many have American flags in their bios, which implies they're right-wing/conservative in that context (or they travel abroad often and they're expressing that they're American, but usually the prior.) 

Not saying that this is the case here, but having a trans partner isn't as much of a political-identifier in the U.S as you would think. No more or less than Kirk having a black best friend (Candace Owens) means he wasn't racist toward black women. 



JRPGfan said:
JWeinCom said:

As an update, the Guardian has retracted the original story after being unable to verify the original source. Unsurprising. They are still trying to find a way to blame this on the left. The current best attempt is claiming that after living his whole life in Maga world, one semester at a university turned him into a cold blooded killer.

He lived with a Trans partner (romantically).
He got visits (in and out) from out of state, trans individuals like two weeks before all this went down.
Neighbor eyewitnesses claim "they were giving off a bad vibe".
Supposedly 6 individuals tied to visits of him, had prior knowledge of the shooting. (insidewire claims fbi is investigating it)

One of them, calls themselves Skylar Webster (not their real name, but self chosen one), wrote:
"You guys... I have something BIG coming soon. Just be sure the check the news, you'll know it when see it wink smily"
(that was 5 days before the shooting)

Like Minuets after the shooting he followed up with:
"Well that's that"  and "another chud bities the dust"

Then going onto do a +like train on any post celebrating the shooting.


Source : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-r-6iiZgQO8

Your probably not going to like the guy's video, hes very fight leaning.


"The current best attempt is claiming that after living his whole life in Maga world, one semester at a university turned him into a cold blooded killer."

Nah, he grew up surrounded by right leaning people, probably opposed to "being gay" "furries" and trans individuals.
Guy just kept quiet. He was/is gay found himself a trans boyfriend (girlfriend?)... and that was that.
That's likely not just 1 semester... its living his life suppressing his feelings, and meeting other left wing people that encouraged violence.

The trans partner undoubtedly knew about this, along with these people that visited him and maybe supplied him with weapons ect.

Yes the left does seem like it commits less violence, overall. However it can still happen.

I am not only going to not like the video, I am not going to boost its algorithm. What sources does the video cite?

The most reliable source i could find is the NY Post which is still a bit dodgy. They nention out of state visitors but do not mention they were trans and mention the person in question as a roommate.

But it wouldn't surprise me. Trans porn searches tend to be highest in red states. The balance of evidence still seems to be in favor of him being right wing. But I'll admit maybe I should have waited longer before deciding definitively. 

Of course people on the left can commit violent acts. The thing is that when its a right wing person its depicted by the right as just one disturbed individual, but when its a left wing person, which is rarer, its time for civil war.

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Even the authorities can't give a straight answer.

Looks like Gov. Spencer Cox has been repeatedly telling press that Robinson was “deeply indoctrinated with leftist ideology” but refusing to substantiate the allegation even when TV news anchors press for evidence.

— jon ben-menachem (@jbenmenachem.com) 14 September 2025 at 15:37

Utah Gov. Spencer Cox says investigators are not yet ready to discuss a motive in the killing of conservative activist Charlie Kirk.

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— KKTV 11 News (@kktv.com) 14 September 2025 at 15:49

It's pretty obvious they still don't have any concrete to pin him as a left winger.



It is pretty obvious that if they had anything remotely alluding to actual left-wing politics, they would release it. Trump has a hatred for the left (likely because of the 2020 protests) that he didn't really have as much in his first term. He also has a strong motivation to coin an enemy.

The difficult part is that it isn't believable at all amongst non-MAGA that there is a real communist threat. Communism has never been weaker as a movement. This is very unlike 1920's and 30's Germany (or even 1930's U.S) where communism was a real threat to the extant systems.

The right is trying to treat "woke" ideas as the new communism, but nobody really cares about woke that much. Radical cultural liberalism isn't a threat to capitalism.