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One paper by Celinet Duran of the State University of New York at Oswego studied political violence between 1990 and 2020. It found that there were far more frequent and deadly attacks by the hard-right than the hard-left, although left-wing violence increased throughout the study period. A separate tally by the Anti-Defamation League, an advocacy group, shows that 76% of extremist-related murders over the past decade were committed by those on the right. Such tallies, however, depend on how extremism is defined and how ideology is assigned. The ADL uses public records such as media reports and police filings to reach their numbers. But those who commit violence often leave a messy trail of resentments that defy easy classification, and some are clearly mentally ill.

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Hiku said:
KLXVER said:

I see the left doing well in here. Thats good. I guess we can have this thread open. Dont want to make it seem like the right is ok and the left is wrong for once. Had to close that Charlie Kirk thread for the good of the people I guess. Oh it was probably because people were attacking eachother, right objective mods? ....fucking idiots.

Its a big thing happening in the world right now and I would like to see a discussion of it.

You didnt explain anything since I cant access the fucking thread anymore.

Who exactly do you think came out of that thread "looking right"?
The one that called another members sub-human and drove them away?
Or the ones that declared that the shooter is a transgender leftist, before we had any facts?

The inscriptions of the bullet casings, and photos of him dressing up as a Pepe meme point more towards the shooter being part of the Groyper community. Which is an alt-right group.
We still don't know for sure, especially if that annonymous tip from the schoolmate is accurate, but the people that were sure in the other thread sure don't look very reasonable.

Ryuu did explain why it was closed in the "State of the Forum" thread, where you are active.

But you can still check the locked thread, where it was also explained.
Locked threads don't appear in the index. But you can still access them. Go to your VGChartz Buddy notifications for example, and click on one related to that thread, and you're in.

It's still discussed in this thread though, and most of the posts right before yours were about that subject, so I really don't understand what you mean when you say you want to see a discussion of it.

KLXVER said:

Do whatever you want. Cancel culture is your thing.

You're acting as if it's not your thing.
Here's your reaction to when the Sucker Punch employee was fired for their opinion on Charlie Kirk:



No anti-cancel culture sentiments expressed. Instead, you're implying that more of them share the same view.

The idea that cancel-culture is one side's thing is ridiculous.
It was predominantly conservatives that said they wanted that employee fired.

The only reason it tends to happen more often towards one side regarding politics is simply because that side is inherantly way more prone to breaking TOS, or expressing opinions that companies don't want to associate with.

US progressive core issues center more around things like healthcare and human rights.
US conservative core issues center more around immigration.

Saying that everyone should have Universal Healthcare isn't going to get your company in trouble. You're not exactly attacking a group of people because of how they were born.
But making xenophobic or bigoted remarks can.

Mocking someone's death is in that latter category. Though it's not part of either side's ideology, and only comes up when something like this occurs.

There's no progressive version of the bible stating that straight people will burn in hell.
So guess which side is way more likely to say something that criticizes someone based on their sexuality?
And there's no counterpart to the right's anti-imigration policies on the left.
That would be something like pushing for the deportation of white native born citizens?

Those are some examples of why conservatives are more prone to breaking the rules on these subjects.
Not because those who enforce the rules are being unfair or biased. But because there are no counterparts to many of these issues on the opposite side of the spectrum.

Yet you'll have poeople, liked you just did, implying that things are unfair without considering any of this. As if every problematic ideal exists mirror reversed on the other side.

We can't invent a progressive bible that's anti-straight just to even things out when it comes to LGBT slurs. Etc.
There's f*ggot, tr*nny, h*mo, etc.
What's the anti straight slur? Straighty?

Let's not act like we should expect an equal amount of infractions on either side, as if they're just mirror opposites.

There was cis but of course, being how overly sensitive and unfunny the people that uses these terms tend to be, this shit caught fire like an LA dumpster fire together with all the forced shit like Latinx, Filipinx and all the horrible forced made up words those kind of people tried to pull off.

Oh and staunch Christians/religious people were also made fun of. It's why the 90s and  00s were great because of the counter culture against retarded puritans and not because they wanted to be left like most people are trying to claim these days. Now why do the LGBT folks get shit? Hmmm... let's see. Maybe because they took a page from the shitty Christian puritans, where if I don't agree with their stupid preferred pronouns I am somehow an evil person that needs to be stripped of off my rights? Making existing characters gay to push an agenda? If I can make fun of staunch Christians and ignore them, then I can very well do the same to LGBT ideology.

Now the word You, here will not be pertaining to You specifically just to be clear.

My motto is, Bro, if you're gay, I don't fucking give a shit. If you're truly happy with it, I'm happy for you. We can enjoy common things but leave me and the things I enjoy out of your kinks. Just because I enjoy yuri hentai, doesn't mean I fucking want to see your futanari collection or yaoi collection. Keep that shit to yourself nor do I want to hear how much you enjoy them.

Its fine for you to have your sandbox, but don't go fucking telling me that I need to change my sandbox to accommodate you. It's this recurring theme of seeking affirmation of their existence to the point that they encroach on every fucking thing as if there's no fucking boundary. The ones who are truly gay/trans are a minority. And for some reason, they think this is bad. Now you have younger generations bandwagonning trying to identify as whatever mudying the fucking waters and causing all sorts of problems.

The sooner people learn that minority isn't a weakness and is actually a blessing and that not everything needs to cater for them, nor make things easier for them, the happier they will be. There might only be a few of you, but your community is tighter and filled with genuine people. Grooming younger generations to grow your numbers artificially will lead to your community losing its real identity. There's a reason why gatekeeping was practiced by actual nerds back in the days. Because they knew tourists are nothing but trouble.

Forcing inclusivity will always be retarded and will always lead to the worst kind of ruin. And that is demonstrated well by how the pride flag became a hodgepodge of every fucking vomit that the tourists imprinted onto it.

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iron_megalith said:

Its fine for you to have your sandbox, but don't go fucking telling me that I need to change my sandbox to accommodate you. It's this recurring theme of seeking affirmation of their existence to the point that they encroach on every fucking thing as if there's no fucking boundary. The ones who are truly gay/trans are a minority.

In what ways are you being forced to change your sandbox? 

No one is forcing you to be gay. No one is forcing you to be trans. 

No one is showing up at your house to show you gay porn. 

No one is showing up at your house to show you trans porn.

When you're doing things in a community, that is not your sandbox. 

If you're having a conversation about someone with someone else, that is not your sandbox. 

If you're a government official, it is not your sandbox to deny people rights that you don't like.  

If you're in the park, it is not your sandbox to tell other people how to engage in the park.  

When you're having a conversation with someone, that is not your sandbox. 

When you're online and engaging with other platforms and other people, that is not your sandbox.  

"where if I don't agree with their stupid preferred pronouns I am somehow an evil person that needs to be stripped of off my rights? Making existing characters gay to push an agenda? If I can make fun of staunch Christians and ignore them, then I can very well do the same to LGBT ideology." 

^ This isn't your sandbox, this is more like how your sandbox interacts with other people's.  

If you're a Christian who doesn't like how you're being treated, you're allowed to say that.

If you're a gay person who doesn't like how you're being treated, you're allowed to say that. 

One person's free speech can be used to be a jerk, and it is another's free speech for them to say that they're being a jerk. Otherwise you don't have free speech.  



the-pi-guy said:
iron_megalith said:

Its fine for you to have your sandbox, but don't go fucking telling me that I need to change my sandbox to accommodate you. It's this recurring theme of seeking affirmation of their existence to the point that they encroach on every fucking thing as if there's no fucking boundary. The ones who are truly gay/trans are a minority.

In what ways are you being forced to change your sandbox? 

No one is forcing you to be gay. No one is forcing you to be trans. 

No one is showing up at your house to show you gay porn. 

No one is showing up at your house to show you trans porn.

When you're doing things in a community, that is not your sandbox. 

If you're having a conversation about someone with someone else, that is not your sandbox. 

If you're a government official, it is not your sandbox to deny people rights that you don't like.  

If you're in the park, it is not your sandbox to tell other people how to engage in the park.  

When you're having a conversation with someone, that is not your sandbox. 

When you're online and engaging with other platforms and other people, that is not your sandbox.  

"where if I don't agree with their stupid preferred pronouns I am somehow an evil person that needs to be stripped of off my rights? Making existing characters gay to push an agenda? If I can make fun of staunch Christians and ignore them, then I can very well do the same to LGBT ideology." 

^ This isn't your sandbox, this is more like how your sandbox interacts with other people's.  

If you're a Christian who doesn't like how you're being treated, you're allowed to say that.

If you're a gay person who doesn't like how you're being treated, you're allowed to say that. 

One person's free speech can be used to be a jerk, and it is another's free speech for them to say that they're being a jerk. Otherwise you don't have free speech.  

Ah yes the no one is forcing you to be gay.... The common thing that gets said. Then why do we have so much corpo/government backing to pedal this shit even on things that didn't have it nor really were made for it? If you didn't think this was about control over the culture, then you are deluded.

Again, forcing inclusivity is retarded. Also trying to force acceptance means you have to strongarm people into agreement. You have to earn it if you want it. You are free to do so. But don't come crying to me if people push against it and you're forced to retreat back into your minority safe space. If you were able to exist without having that much eyes on you, then trying to make it "mainstream" was your own decision.

Also, the world is filled with jerks. The only time that it really matters to me is on extreme cases like when they try wish harm onto others. Someone calls me a f*gg*t? Fuck. I lost a second of my time reading that. Who the fuck is that guy anyway? A fucking nobody? Moving on.



iron_megalith said:

Ah yes the no one is forcing you to be gay.... The common thing that gets said. Then why do we have so much corpo/government backing to pedal this shit even on things that didn't have it nor really were made for it? If you didn't think this was about control over the culture, then you are deluded.

Again, forcing inclusivity is retarded. Also trying to force acceptance means you have to strongarm people into agreement. You have to earn it if you want it. You are free to do so. But don't come crying to me if people push against it and you're forced to retreat back into your minority safe space. If you were able to exist without having that much eyes on you, then trying to make it "mainstream" was your own decision.

Also, the world is filled with jerks. The only time that it really matters to me is on extreme cases like when they try wish harm onto others. Someone calls me a f*gg*t? Fuck. I lost a second of my time reading that. Who the fuck is that guy anyway? A fucking nobody? Moving on.

Oh yeah, making 50 movies out of a 1,000 that portray a gay couple is forcing me to be gay. People making content and asking for content doesn't affect you. If you don't want those movies, don't watch them.  

How do people "earn" acceptance? I'm pretty sure the only way to actually do that, is to have people experience that culture. Having a gay couple in a tv show, that aren't terrible. Having a trans person in a movie that is well written. And yet when that happens, it is a bridge too far for some people.  

How do they earn acceptance, when any kind of reference to them, is too far? 

Except it's not just mean words on a screen. It's a government official telling you that she's not going to allow you to submit paper work to get married because she doesn't agree with your "life style".  It's a dad killing their child for being gay. Throwing their child out of the house for being trans. 

And yes, those things have happened. 

Ah but the real crime against humanity is when your friend says she wants to be called Sally now, instead of John.  The real cruelty in life is when she stops fitting her sandbox around yours, just because you can't do such a simple thing around her.



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Iron is right, I can speak first hand that the gay agenda has got to me too, it all started last week, there I was, about to get ready to prepare breakfast, I poured my cereals into my bowl, that's when the first sign appeared, my cereal was rainbow coloured! I said to myself "Wtf are these gay colours doing in my cereal!" and threw my bowl at the wall. Taking a moment to calm down I poured myself a nice glass of full fat cows milk like a real man, but it tasted different...This wasn't no full fat cows milk, it was weak pansy soy milk! I rushed to the sink and tried to wash the gay chemicals out of my mouth, I could feel the gay taking control of me, but I got there just in time.

Then, all of a sudden, my Alexa turned on and started playing "Pink Pony Club" by Chappell Roan, I screamed (LIKE A MAN) "ALEXA STOP!" and it responded! It said to me "You can't escape the gay agenda. We're always watching" I was so scared I ran to my bathroom with my bedroom duvet and threw it over my head, trying to drown the gay audio out. Finally after two hours and me pissing myself, the music stopped. I was so relieved. But then I heard a knock at the door, I looked through the peephole, it was just the delivery man. Then I opened the door, and that's when it happened.

It wasn't no delivery man, it was Disney's Men in Rainbow, they broke into my house, pinned me down and started shouting at me "You will accept the gay agenda! You will be gay!" I shouted "NO! I'M A MAN! A STRAIGHT MAN! YOU CAN'T BREAK ME! as they poured RAINBOW SKITTLES down my throat, I tried to scream out to my neighbour as I watched the Disney agent slowly close my front door, and another say "Alexa...Play ‘Y.M.C.A.’ by Village People" and it was over.

Iron has broken me free temporarily but it won't be long, I can feel their influence clawing back into my head. Oh God...Alexa is playing on its own again, Gay Bar by Electric Six. It's too late for me, I can hear Axum banging on my door telling me to open up, but you can still save yourselves. Cancel your Disney+ Subs! Avoid the rainbow food, it's gay chemicals! Drink full fat milk and none of that gay soy milk shit! Always wear headphones whenever you're outside, you never know when they will play their gay mind control music! And...

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Great. Now it is being reported he had a trans roommate and the media is desperately trying to blame trans people again somehow, JFC these absolute unhinged nutjobs are desperate to start a witch-hunt against trans people, I'm scared and worried for them. People were so bloodthirsty for this to be a trans-person and now they'll somehow blame his trans roommate I'm sure even if it would make no fucking sense to do so.

Fox News, NY Post, etc. Reporting "sources" in the FBI.

Firs it was people accusing the shooter of being trans with zero proof, then it was the trans bullet which turned out to be bullshit but that didn't stop media from tripping over themselves to report on it and then pathetically offering retractions, now it's "he had a trans roommate!" the fucking obsession the right have over trans people is absolutely deranged, a less than 1% population receiving about 90% of their fucking airtime, who by far, commit the least amount of crimes and just want to be left alone and live their life.

And any Democrat who gets sucked into the debate is a fucking idiot too, they're desperate to find something to demonise to distract you from the real issues and distract you from them pillaging the country and destroying it, they'll say it's immigrants causing all your issues, then it's trans people, after they've done beating down trans people it will be gay people, then it will be women.



KLXVER said:
JWeinCom said:

Are you really saying that the shooter was MAGA? lol

You sir, have made me laugh.

Yes.  Thats exactly what's coming out.  So after doing some research... it turns out that Nick Fuentes followers believe that Charlie Kirk was an Undercover fascist at this point I dont know if the word facist even means anythingor is just one of those catch all terms).   Hate always consumes itself.  Nick has come forward to disown Tyler over it stating that he never wanted his followers to become violent.

You see everyone thinks that MAGA is this united thing but there are culture wars within the culture war.  Its really getting crazy.

That's why the right (specifically Trump and Fox News as well as people like Nancy Mace) had to back down.  They did the worst possible thing after the shooting by stoking more political violence.    All they had to do was wait to get more information. 

I dont even know how to approach fixing this situation because apparently while no one was looking the culture war just because a war of casualties with no victory and everyone loosing.  

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Reporters talking with everyone who has ever met the shooter asking if the shooter knew any trans people. Healthy society we have here for sure.

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— Katelyn Burns (@katelynburns.com) 13 September 2025 at 21:31

These people are fucking sick, trans is all they think about, they want to exterminate them, running around like "DID HE KNOW ANY TRANS PEOPLE SO WE CAN WRITE ABOUT THAT ANGRILY IN THE NEWSPAPER AND TURN PEOPLE AGAINST TRANS PEOPLE?!" to everyone he fucking knew, JFC. Daily Heil though so I'm not surprised.

Btw if it turns out the roommate isn't trans, would he have any cause for suing these publications?

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Ryuu96 said:

Great. Now it is being reported he had a trans roommate and the media is desperately trying to blame trans people again somehow, JFC these absolute unhinged nutjobs are desperate to start a witch-hunt against trans people, I'm scared and worried for them. People were so bloodthirsty for this to be a trans-person and now they'll somehow blame his trans roommate I'm sure even if it would make no fucking sense to do so.

Fox News, NY Post, etc. Reporting "sources" in the FBI.

Firs it was people accusing the shooter of being trans with zero proof, then it was the trans bullet which turned out to be bullshit but that didn't stop media from tripping over themselves to report on it and then pathetically offering retractions, now it's "he had a trans roommate!" the fucking obsession the right have over trans people is absolutely deranged, a less than 1% population receiving about 90% of their fucking airtime, who by far, commit the least amount of crimes and just want to be left alone and live their life.

And any Democrat who gets sucked into the debate is a fucking idiot too, they're desperate to find something to demonise to distract you from the real issues and distract you from them pillaging the country and destroying it, they'll say it's immigrants causing all your issues, then it's trans people, after they've done beating down trans people it will be gay people, then it will be women.

I think they need the culture war to maintain their control over people and they need a common boogieman who isn't a straight white male because the culture war is predicated on the idea that its somehow straight white males vs the world.  Simple logic states that the fact that Tyler was a straight white male has nothing to do with the murder but these guys, especially Fox have been attacking identity instead of issues for so long that they dont know how to stop.

Otherwise these guys do i fact thi k about trans people more than actual trans people.  Its really morbid at this point.