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sc94597 said:

For all we know the shooter could be a Fuentes-fan/explicit Nazi who was mad at Charlie for supporting Israel. 

So yeah, I agree we should wait and see.

It's a reasonable assumption based on precedents.

According to START, almost all attempted mass casualty events in the past 65 years in Utah have been far-right leaning.

For those interested, nationally, there have been almost more pro-Trump attempted and consummated mass murders (51) than all far-left events since 1948 combined (= 61, about half of which were from anarchists).



 

 

 

 

 

haxxiy said:
sc94597 said:

For all we know the shooter could be a Fuentes-fan/explicit Nazi who was mad at Charlie for supporting Israel. 

So yeah, I agree we should wait and see.

It's a reasonable assumption based on precedents.

According to START, almost all attempted mass casualty events in the past 65 years in Utah have been far-right leaning.

For those interested, nationally, there have been almost more pro-Trump attempted and consummated mass murders (51) than all far-left events since 1948 combined (= 61, about half of which were from anarchists).

But da violent far-left! (Actual stats completely counter it).

It wouldn't be a surprise if this dude was a right winger too, although logic states that he was more likely a left winger but we don't know shit right now, not that it has stopped people from rushing with zero knowledge to say "OMG THE VIOLENT LEFT MUST BE STOPPED!" and now we have as per usual, the bullshit trans rhetoric being pushed which after every single fucking shooting event we have right wingers rushing out to say "BET IT WAS A MENTALLY DERANGED TRANS PERSON" so yeah, the narrative has already been poisoned, even if it does turn out that he is a right winger (not saying he was) it won't matter because the narrative has already been pushed he is a deranged trans supporter.

The Russian way of flooding the news zone with so much bullshit that when the truth does come out, it gets drowned by the bullshit.



SanAndreasX said:

Jair Bolsonaro was sentenced to 27 years in prison.

“The political persecutions by sanctioned human rights abuser Alexandre de Moraes continue, as he and others on Brazil's supreme court have unjustly ruled to imprison former President Jair Bolsonaro," Rubio wrote on X.

“The United States will respond accordingly to this witch hunt," he said.

Rubio vows US response following conviction of Brazil’s Bolsonaro - Reuters

Brazil to America:

Fucking Lol at Rubio threatening Brazil. Upset at Brazil for doing what America should have done, Bolsonaro is a traitor to Brazil and attempted a coup, America being upset about him being punished for that says it all. Rubio on the other hand is such a snake, I can't wait for his apology "I'm actually centre" tour when Trump dies.

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Ryuu96 said:
SanAndreasX said:

Jair Bolsonaro was sentenced to 27 years in prison.

“The political persecutions by sanctioned human rights abuser Alexandre de Moraes continue, as he and others on Brazil's supreme court have unjustly ruled to imprison former President Jair Bolsonaro," Rubio wrote on X.

“The United States will respond accordingly to this witch hunt," he said.

Rubio vows US response following conviction of Brazil’s Bolsonaro - Reuters

Brazil to America:

Fucking Lol at Rubio threatening Brazil. Upset at Brazil for doing what America should have done, Bolsonaro is a traitor to Brazil and attempted a coup, America being upset about him being punished for that says it all. Rubio on the other hand is such a snake, I can't wait for his apology "I'm actually centre" tour when Trump dies.

And while this is going on, former Filipino president Rodrigo Duterte is on trial at the ICC in The Hague for carrying out extrajudicial killings of people accused of being drug dealers. Duterte was another thug that Trump admired. Their bromance, however, cooled off when Duterte started cozying up to Xi Jinping, and so far Trump doesn't seem to be threatening The Hague. 

Duterte's successor, Bongbong Marcos (son of the notorious Ferdinand Marcos and his equally notorious wife Imelda; his real name is Ferdinand Marcos Jr.), has reversed course and cozied up to the United States government again, with his family locked in a power struggle with the Dutertes. The Marcoses were harbored by the United States during their exile from the Philippines. They spent the subsequent 20 years completely whitewashing Ferdinand's 20-plus year regime, which started to collapse when Senator Benigno "Ninoy" Aquino Jr. was assassinated in the Manila International Airport in 1983, successfully returning themselves to power. They're locked in a bitter power struggle with the Dutertes. Sara Duterte, Rodrigo's daughter, is the PH VP and recently escaped impeachment after she threatened to have Bongbong assassinated. I've always thought the Trumps were the American version of the Marcos family, with Trump being similarly kleptocratic and installing his kids in powerful positions to try and keep the regime going. If things really go south for Bongbong, I can see Trump similarly making threats on his behalf. 

Fun fact: there's actually a law in the United States Code, passed during George W. Bush's administration, that potentially authorizes the U.S. government to go to war with the Netherlands if a U.S. official or any member of the U.S. military is ever brought to trial in the ICC.



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The president, when asked about how we "fix the country" or "come back together" after Kirk's shooting, says that he "couldn't care less".

"The radicals on the right oftentimes are radical because they don't want to see crime. They don't want to see crime, worried about the border," Trump says. "The radicals on the left are the problem, and they're vicious and they're horrible and they're politically savvy".

Classic. Tell me more about how the President himself isn't flaming tensions.



Ryuu96 said:

The president, when asked about how we "fix the country" or "come back together" after Kirk's shooting, says that he "couldn't care less".

"The radicals on the right oftentimes are radical because they don't want to see crime. They don't want to see crime, worried about the border," Trump says. "The radicals on the left are the problem, and they're vicious and they're horrible and they're politically savvy".

Classic. Tell me more about how the President himself isn't flaming tensions.

"But the left is sooooo mean!" - several VGChartz users who shall remain nameless



EARHARDT: We have radicals on the right as well. How do we fix this country?

TRUMP: I'll tell you something that's gonna get me in trouble but I couldn't care less. The radicals on the right oftentimes are radical because they don't want to see crime. The radicals on the left are the problem.

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— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) 12 September 2025 at 13:34


All these radicals on the right are only committing crime, murdering or attempting murder, because they don't want to see crime! (makes sense), they aren't a problem at all, Donald Trump doesn't care about them, it's only the radical left that are the problem, Lmfao. Anyone who says Trump isn't flaming tensions is braindead.

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Ryuu96 said:

All these radicals on the right are only committing crime, murdering or attempting murder, because they don't want to see crime! (makes sense), they aren't a problem at all, Donald Trump doesn't care about them, it's only the radical left that are the problem, Lmfao. Anyone who says Trump isn't flaming tensions is braindead.

"Tough on crime" was also a dog-whistle used by George Wallace and Richard Nixon in 1968, which Hubert Humphrey was also forced to adopt so he wouldn't appear to be "soft" on crime (the Overton Window got dragged to the right in that election).