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sundin13 said:

Yeah, in order for any sufficiently large system to micro manage it's spending, you would have to have a large and expensive system sitting counter it for auditing purposes, which would also reduce efficiency and turnaround for spending that is ultimately improved. It's kind of an impossible problem. Improvements can obviously be made, but it's not as simple as "expensive table bad", and even if it was, that isn't where the heart of our spending woes lie

Yes, but let that fact be the responsibility of the new incoming DOGE gov't agency.  They can audit gov't for wasteful spending and whatever savings can be realized can only be a good thing. Goodbye Dept. of Education    :)

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BFR said:
the-pi-guy said:

I already did say the money was wasteful. I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm just saying we can talk about the other layers to this. 

But I'll go even further and say, being able to "waste" money is kind of an important good part of government. Being able to invest in helpful technologies that private industry wouldn't because they're not profitable is important. We wouldn't have space exploration without it. SpaceX wouldn't exist without NASA existing. 

The vast majority of space firsts were done by government programs.

Being able to invest in green technologies, is an important government responsibility right now. 

Pi, nobody loves the US space program more than me.

It is true that SpaceX wouldn't exist like it does today, if NASA didn't award it a contract under the Commercial Resupply Services (CRS) program to send supplies to the ISS.

I am a huge supporter of ARPA-E, the DOE's version of DARPA, which invests in risky, but potentially rewarding green technologies.

In fact, during Obama's first term, I even wrote a letter to the White House proposing the creation of such an agency, only I named my concept as "EARPA".

That's why I specifically talked about space. It's wasteful government spending that you like  

BFR said:

Yes, but let that fact be the responsibility of the new incoming DOGE gov't agency.  They can audit gov't for wasteful spending and whatever savings can be realized can only be a good thing. Goodbye Dept. of Education    :)

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Congress has a similar agency as DOGE already- Government Accountability Office. 



I can dig it. :)

Yeah, but GAO has been around forever. Fat, lazy, fucks. Whereas DOGE is new and aggressive. Led by President Musk and his VP Vivek R.



The next administration hasn't even started yet and MAGA is attacking Elon Musk, Lmao.

Musk supported removing H-1B visa country caps and backed Krishnan’s skilled immigration push.

MAGA melted down because "immigrants bad"

Vivek had to respond.

Musk is trying to defend his points against the MAGA loons.

We also have a HUGE national shortage of construction workers, agricultural workers and food processors, landscapers, and hospitality workers. But he wants all of them all deported as not useful, while justifying migrants in his industries.

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— Ron Filipkowski (@ronfilipkowski.bsky.social) 26 December 2024 at 00:18

Words I never thought I'd write: Loomer is correct here.

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— Wajahat Ali (@wajali.bsky.social) 26 December 2024 at 21:37

Musk is feeling the heat.

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Sorry Ryu, sounds like Fake News....What is your source? Just gotta be the Devil's Advocate that Pi-Guy is famous for :) Love you Pi !...Get some sleep, you deserve it.



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BFR said:

Sorry Ryu, sounds like Fake News....What is your source? Just gotta be the Devil's Advocate that Pi-Guy is famous for :) Love you Pi !...Get some sleep, you deserve it.

Edited the post, it's about immigrants basically, Musk wants immigrants for his companies, Lol.

Musk, Vivek Enrage MAGA Fans by Saying Tech Firms Need Foreign Workers



Ryu,

Who is Laura Loomer? .....Does she have any credibility?

Who is Ron Filipkowski?....Does he have any credibility ?

Who is Wajahat Ali?........Does he have any credibility?

Maybe, just maybe, that Elon is smarter than those trolls?



It's funny that so many of you in this political forum refer to Elon as "President Musk" or "President Elon"

And for those of you who have said this, you know who you are. Just own up to it.

But, why should you guys stop there?

Let's follow your logic.......President Musk

Why stop there? How about "King Musk"

GOD SAVE THE KING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GOD SAVE THE KING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GOD SAVE KING MUSK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Shakespeare: Now thy unfortunates, bow down before King Musk, and plead for food and water. Musk is your king, he is your savior, he is your Messiah. Thou shall kiss Elon's South African ass !!

Oh, thou peasants, shall glorify our one and only, King Musk, or shall God Help Us ?

Last edited by BFR - on 26 December 2024

BFR said:

Maybe, just maybe, that Elon is smarter than those trolls?

Ryuu isn't calling out Elon Musk there. 

He's basically pointing out that Elon Musk's largely left wing opinion there isn't going to go over very well with the people that he's working with and his supporters.

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Ryu,

Who is Laura Loomer? .....Does she have any credibility?

Laura Loomer is pretty much the only one who's relevant here. 

She's a big right wing activist, who's worked with infowars, project veritas, among others. Donald Trump wanted her on his campaign.

Last edited by the-pi-guy - on 26 December 2024

It's so funny reading Vivek's post. At least I wish it were funny. 

"A culture that celebrates the prom queen over the math olympiad champ, or the jock over the valedictorian, will not produce the best engineers."

"because they promoted mediocrity…and their kids went on to become wildly successful STEM graduates)."

"Trump’s election hopefully marks the beginning of a new golden era in America, but only if our culture fully wakes up"

Republicans have spent the past couple decades cultivating that culture. Education has been vilified as indoctrination. Science is a lie to prop up businesses. Medical science is a lie, they're just propping up big pharma. Climate science is a lie, it's just propping up green companies or something. We don't want nerds, we want toxic masculine jocks. 

As someone with a huge passion for STEM, the hypocrisy is so painful.