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Ryuu96 said:

Now the question is.

Mark Kelly, Andy Beshear or Roy Cooper as VP? - These guys are reportedly on the shortlist.

Shapiro is not in the shortlist, shame as I thought he was the strongest.

I could see Buttigieg being an appealing VP pick. Not my first pick in terms of policy, but he's done amazingly well in speeches and interviews backing Biden's administration and could do even better as Kamala's #1 hype man.

Ryuu96 said:

Trump's the kind of idiot who would have planned his entire campaign on Biden so I wonder what attack angles he even has against Harris, it has been obvious the past few days that Republicans desperately wanted Biden to stay in the race.

  • Former Prosecutor vs Convicted Felon.
  • Woman vs Man Trying to Rip Away Women's Rights.

Then when it comes to VP.

  • ? Vs Moron

Trump is now the oldest candidate in American history to to be on the ballot.

Democrats need to get ahead of whatever bullshit the media is about to throw Harris way as well.

Crazy Kamala is the angle I'd go with if I were Trump. Appeal to the misogynists in his base and throw in a side of DEI drivel while he's at it. I don't think either will be as effective as the narrative was around Biden's mental state.



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zorg1000 said:
SvennoJ said:

He made the right choice, but I disagree history will look kindly on genocide Joe...

He still has time to redeem himself somewhat before November yet he will still be remembered as a weak president that couldn't get anything done to stop a genocide, rather the opposite.

I hope Harris does better.

Like it or not, Gaza isn’t that important of an issue to a large chunk of Americans. It will just be seen as a small part of a century long conflict.

History books are not just about the USA...



If they really just organized to prop up Harris instead of a genuine open convention since he got all the primary votes (or vast majority) then that is truly the scummiest way to get a presidential nominee in history. No one should vote for her and certainly not the 14 million who were told their vote didn't matter.



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TallSilhouette said:
Ryuu96 said:

Now the question is.

Mark Kelly, Andy Beshear or Roy Cooper as VP? - These guys are reportedly on the shortlist.

Shapiro is not in the shortlist, shame as I thought he was the strongest.

I could see Buttigieg being an appealing VP pick. Not my first pick in terms of policy, but he's done amazingly well in speeches and interviews backing Biden's administration and could do even better as Kamala's #1 hype man.

Ryuu96 said:

Trump's the kind of idiot who would have planned his entire campaign on Biden so I wonder what attack angles he even has against Harris, it has been obvious the past few days that Republicans desperately wanted Biden to stay in the race.

  • Former Prosecutor vs Convicted Felon.
  • Woman vs Man Trying to Rip Away Women's Rights.

Then when it comes to VP.

  • ? Vs Moron

Trump is now the oldest candidate in American history to to be on the ballot.

Democrats need to get ahead of whatever bullshit the media is about to throw Harris way as well.

Crazy Kamala is the angle I'd go with if I were Trump. Appeal to the misogynists in his base and throw in a side of DEI drivel while he's at it. I don't think either will be as effective as the narrative was around Biden's mental state.

Pete is a brilliant speaker, debater, etc. He should definitely be on the campaign trail going hard for Harris but I feel he won't be as important as someone like Beshear, Shapiro, Cooper, etc, in swinging some moderate states to Democrats.

And yeah, he will go with the "Crazy Kamala" misogynistic bullshit with a mix of DEI. She laughs loudly so she must be crazy!

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Robert_Downey_Jr. said:

If they really just organized to prop up Harris instead of a genuine open convention since he got all the primary votes (or vast majority) then that is truly the scummiest way to get a presidential nominee in history. No one should vote for her and certainly not the 14 million who were told their vote didn't matter.

You are aware that primaries as we know them are like 50 years old at best, right? And Biden's delegates are free to choose whomever they want in the convention-including the person who was also on the ticket those primary voters opted for.

Trying to present this as 1968 or worse is not only disingenuous but outright malicious, which I'm more inclined to believe given your post story. Perhaps you should direct your anger at the man who actually wanted to make 70+ million votes not matter in 2020. But you defended him instead, what a surprise.



 

 

 

 

 



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zorg1000 said:
SvennoJ said:

He made the right choice, but I disagree history will look kindly on genocide Joe...

He still has time to redeem himself somewhat before November yet he will still be remembered as a weak president that couldn't get anything done to stop a genocide, rather the opposite.

I hope Harris does better.

Like it or not, Gaza isn’t that important of an issue to a large chunk of Americans. It will just be seen as a small part of a century long conflict.

Seen as a small part by whom? the ignorant and bigots? History is NOT in the eye of the beholder. 

Biden has exceeded expectations on domestic policies, it doesn't mean things can't get better. Like SvennoJ, I hope Harris does better too, there is a change to recalibrate and do the right thing here. 



Robert_Downey_Jr. said:

 certainly not the 14 million who were told their vote didn't matter.

What exactly is the implication here? Biden isn't allowed to drop out? He's not allowed to make that choice for himself? 

I'm not aware of presidential candidates being a legally binding position.