These guys at Arkane just can't get a win can they? First it was always online (which they are now saying they are working to remove post-release), then it was host only co-op progress, then it was IGN making the game look like shit in their gameplay, then it was Denuvo anti-cheat on PC (PC gamers loathe denuvo), now it's 30 fps quality mode only on release.

I think in game design courses at colleges they will soon be using Redfall as an example of how to make every marketing blunder possible in a single game.

It would be out of touch if a xbox game wasn't dissapointing or atleast have issues. 

The PC version has Denuvo?! Ugh.....that stupid DRM! Too many games are utilizing that thing these days. No kidding though. Redfall has had nothing but bad PR and bad marketing ever since it was announced.

The only positive things I've heard are from hands-on first impressions, but that's not what the most gamers will care about. And charging $70 for it. 

Yep, saw it a few days ago:

https://comicbook.com/gaming/news/redfall-bethesda-release-feature-drm/

I told you all a while ago that Bethesda's marketing is just as bad as Xbox's so I've been sitting here thinking about all of this marketing and being like "I ain't surprised" Lol.

All Arkane titles have had bad marketing, Imho, especially Deathloop and Prey. The two Wolfenstein spinoffs had awful marketing, Wolfenstein II had awful marketing, The Evil Within 2, etc.

If it ain't Doom, Elder Scrolls or Fallout, a strong chance it has bad marketing, and I partly blame Bethesda's marketing and release timing for Prey, Wolfenstein II, Evil Within 2, etc. all underperforming.

Ok so I won't be playing Redfall for a while then. 30fps is pretty much unacceptable on any game for me these days. They well and truly fucked up.. should've delayed it further then.

Redfall doesn't seem to be launching in the shape that it should be.

Still going to require internet for now, no 60 fps mode at launch...

Seems beneficial across the board to just delay it some months.

Starfield will likely have Denuvo as well...Tbh it's more surprising when a game doesn't have Denuvo nowadays.

Prey, Deathloop, Doom Eternal and Hi-Fi Rush all have Denuvo as well.

Bethesda been using it for a while so I kind of let Redfall off for this one, Lol.

Honestly, I think I will just wait to play Redfall until a 60 fps mode is added. It's not like I have nothing else I can play. Just started Ghostwire Tokyo and I hear it is a 40-50 hour 1000 GS completion, and before I will even be able to finish a 40-50 hour completion, Dead Island 2 is coming on April 21st, and then before I will even be able to beat both of those games, Jedi Survivor lands on April 28, just 4 days before Redfall releases, so there is no chance I would be able to beat all 3 before Redfall releases anyway. Busiest gaming Q2 in recent memory this year, it's super dumb on their part to release a game with this many blunders into such a busy gaming period, they'd be much better off delaying and releasing in July or early August imo, releasing with 60 fps and offline play options.

This decision to launch with 30 fps only makes it very easy to decide to wait and play other games instead, will play Redfall sometime after Diablo 4 launches in June, but before Starfield launches in September (60 fps better be added by like July).

Really does seem like they are TRYING to get people to not play this game. So frustrating