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Maybe I'm a bit Jaded now but ehhhh I'm getting tired of the whole "we want all gamers to enjoy the games" narrative, like be real and just say you want a quick return on your investment. You're not doing this out of kindness. Now I still wouldn't care about that but it still remains to be seen how this will effect the consoles in the future because yes MS will still make and support their consoles but will 3rd parties still if sales continue to dwindle? That's my only concern with this whole multiplatform approach

Sorry about this negative post just raw thoughts lol



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ice said:

Maybe I'm a bit Jaded now but ehhhh I'm getting tired of the whole "we want all gamers to enjoy the games" narrative, like be real and just say you want a quick return on your investment. You're not doing this out of kindness. Now I still wouldn't care about that but it still remains to be seen how this will effect the consoles in the future because yes MS will still make and support their consoles but will 3rd parties still if sales continue to dwindle? That's my only concern with this whole multiplatform approach

Sorry about this negative post just raw thoughts lol

I mean... Yes of course that's the reason but why on earth would they say that lol?



ice said:

Maybe I'm a bit Jaded now but ehhhh I'm getting tired of the whole "we want all gamers to enjoy the games" narrative, like be real and just say you want a quick return on your investment. You're not doing this out of kindness. Now I still wouldn't care about that but it still remains to be seen how this will effect the consoles in the future because yes MS will still make and support their consoles but will 3rd parties still if sales continue to dwindle? That's my only concern with this whole multiplatform approach

Sorry about this negative post just raw thoughts lol

Meanwhile Xbox One owners can't play Hi-Fi Rush. You all better be prepared, in a few years Microsoft might decide that it makes more sense for them to release The Elder Scrolls VI on gen 10 only, leaving the Xbox Series out.



chakkra said:
ice said:

Maybe I'm a bit Jaded now but ehhhh I'm getting tired of the whole "we want all gamers to enjoy the games" narrative, like be real and just say you want a quick return on your investment. You're not doing this out of kindness. Now I still wouldn't care about that but it still remains to be seen how this will effect the consoles in the future because yes MS will still make and support their consoles but will 3rd parties still if sales continue to dwindle? That's my only concern with this whole multiplatform approach

Sorry about this negative post just raw thoughts lol

Meanwhile Xbox One owners can't play Hi-Fi Rush. You all better be prepared, in a few years Microsoft might decide that it makes more sense for them to release The Elder Scrolls VI on gen 10 only, leaving the Xbox Series out.

IDK how demanding HFR is, but after 8-9 years I kinda expect support to shift to the newer console. Previous gens were even harsher, but who knows what the future holds if 3rd parties are allowed to make xboxes lol



Imaginedvl said:
ice said:

Maybe I'm a bit Jaded now but ehhhh I'm getting tired of the whole "we want all gamers to enjoy the games" narrative, like be real and just say you want a quick return on your investment. You're not doing this out of kindness. Now I still wouldn't care about that but it still remains to be seen how this will effect the consoles in the future because yes MS will still make and support their consoles but will 3rd parties still if sales continue to dwindle? That's my only concern with this whole multiplatform approach

Sorry about this negative post just raw thoughts lol

I mean... Yes of course that's the reason but why on earth would they say that lol?

they shouldn't, it'll be bad PR but still I'm getting sick of hearing it lol



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ice said:
chakkra said:

Meanwhile Xbox One owners can't play Hi-Fi Rush. You all better be prepared, in a few years Microsoft might decide that it makes more sense for them to release The Elder Scrolls VI on gen 10 only, leaving the Xbox Series out.

IDK how demanding HFR is, but after 8-9 years I kinda expect support to shift to the newer console. Previous gens were even harsher, but who knows what the future holds if 3rd parties are allowed to make xboxes lol

So.. you're telling me that you would be totally fine with them releasing ESVI on Series 2 and PS6 and not on Series X?



chakkra said:
ice said:

IDK how demanding HFR is, but after 8-9 years I kinda expect support to shift to the newer console. Previous gens were even harsher, but who knows what the future holds if 3rd parties are allowed to make xboxes lol

So.. you're telling me that you would be totally fine with them releasing ESVI on Series 2 and PS6 and not on Series X?

it's not about me being fine with it, I just wouldn't expect Xbox (or any other console for that matter) supporting it for 9 years or more. But with consoles becoming more PC maybe there's a future where it does.



ice said:

that Clair Obscur game just jumped so high on my most anticipated games for this year like the game looks so good.

ice said:

Finally got my copy but I had to import it...

#LifeAsAnXboxGamer

My copy of Tales of Graces F should hopefully arrive soon. That's one reason I might play Avowed in February over Kingdom Come II, although Avowed has so many red flags I really want to see some early reviews for it first; but that's a problem when the only 'physical' copy of Avowed is an expensive premium steelbook version with a download code, and part of the supposed value is playing the game early.

Meanwhile Clair Obscur seems to also only have one Xbox physical copy in the world, but this time the US (lucky for you), even though the PS5 version is available here and seemingly everywhere. Yet another game Xbox had marketing for but worse retails options, like Yakuza and Metaphor from last year. Xbox creates an exclusive space to market these games, then when I look into the buying options all I see are PS5 versions.



ice said:

Maybe I'm a bit Jaded now but ehhhh I'm getting tired of the whole "we want all gamers to enjoy the games" narrative, like be real and just say you want a quick return on your investment. You're not doing this out of kindness. Now I still wouldn't care about that but it still remains to be seen how this will effect the consoles in the future because yes MS will still make and support their consoles but will 3rd parties still if sales continue to dwindle? That's my only concern with this whole multiplatform approach

Sorry about this negative post just raw thoughts lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4PRA18TFWY

09:13 Getting Rid of Hardware Losses
11:42 What This All Means


If you want to avoid subsidised hardware sales, because of BoM (being on the higher side) and trying to compete against Playstation....
You make games for multiple platforms.... or you live with the fact that your console is just 100-200$ more than the competitions
(if your unwilling to sell at loss).

If 3rd party are makeing the systems to sell future xbox's, they wont be sold at a loss (from their end).
Which means, prices go up.... or the specs of the system, compaired to the competition, are drastically lowered.

That is the future if 3rd party take up the mantle.
If Xbox continues to make their own consoles, but arn't willing to eat that loss (which it appears they arn't, from their current direction "game everywhere" ect)... the same is true, either its lesser in specs (ei. future consoles from xbox are like the Series S... no more X's) to compete against the Playstation 6 (then), or prices are higher than their competition (to avoid those losses).

Note, all this only matters.... *IF* xbox truely does not care, where you play their games.

If that is true, then its the logical outcome.

It sounds like this is what Wellfare believes will happend.
He believes they don't care about hardware sales, only the profit from doing bussiness, and if it makes more sense to earn it from the software sales and avoid these hardware losses, they will.



So now xbox wants to win ? Picked a damn narrative Phil for fucks sake.



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