I’m going to be completely honest, this whole thing seems like it turned out to be a complete nothingburger
I mean I may end up being wrong but this seems barely different to the status quo of a year ago. Xbox going third party does not seem to be in the cards for the next few years
It's essentially the "case by case" response I was expecting. 4 ports are full steam ahead and after that decisions have yet to be made.
I did want something more explicit but business is business.
HFR, Pentiment, Sea of Thieves and Grounded to begin with and we'll see what they follow with after that.
G2ThaUNiT said:
"Whereas games like Pentiment and Hi-Fi Rush would benefit from having more access to more gamers just because they're smaller and more niche" That was not in reference to community |
So Gears, Halo and Forza would make sense then. Those are ones thats not already on other consoles.
KLXVER said:
Those are not going to convince many players to join Xbox. Im thinking more like Halo, Forza and Gears. If you want people to actually consider getting into Xbox. Maybe Sea Of Thieves could do something. Thats a pretty big one actually. But as I feared, we know about as much now as we knew going into this podcast... |
I'm confused, are you saying they should port Halo to PlayStation to get people to consider getting into Xbox? Just clarifying.
Think Pentiment is more about throwing Josh Sawyer a bone Tbh, it's a utterly niche ass passion project and Josh Sawyer said he wanted it on other platforms long ago, it's going to do absolutely nothing for Xbox hardware, heck, 90% of Xbox gamers probably don't even know about it, haha. But it's such a gem which deserves to be played by as many as possible and will have ZERO affect on Xbox hardware.
Sea of Thieves/Grounded are more about maintaining their communities, they're both years old, likely reaching a saturation point on Xbox hardware, eventually it will be "shutdown" or...you can port the game and it gets even more life, honestly these niche titles and GaaS titles don't really make sense keeping exclusive for years on end, at the end of the day it's not about the Xbox hardware for these but the health of the games themselves.
| Spade said: I personally don't see much benefit in the small games like Pentiment and Hi-fi to PS and Nintendo, but all live service i feel should go to everyone. Even helldivers if sony was smart. |
Agreed on GaaS...Sony will probably watch Marathon closely, if it does really well on Xbox, that could make them "consider" things, then we'll get thousands of articles about Sony "considering" porting a 5 year old Helldivers to Xbox and questions if PlayStation is leaving the console market and porting everything to Xbox, Lol.
| shikamaru317 said: Biggest hardware leap of any gaming generation ever is quite the tease. I'm skeptical that it will truly be the biggest leap in actual hardware though, if the leaks are right we are only looking at 6 years between Xbox Series X and next-gen Xbox, that is not enough time for a massive leap in actual hardware specs unless it is very expensive. I'd rather say that things like better dedicated raytracing cores that allow path tracing, and AI frame generation to nearly double framerates at the chosen graphics settings, will do the heavy lifting of making this next-gen Xbox seem like the biggest hardware leap yet. Guessing the unique hardware tease could be a reference to the dual-layer Xbox and Windows OS, or it could be about the rumored cloud graphics improvements from the slide that leaked out in the ABK court case New Xbox Series hardware option this year is somewhat surprising, the AMD leaker suggested the mid-gen refresh console had been cancelled and even Phil said that slide that had leaked was outdated and no longer matched their current plans. Could just be a cheaper to produce model on a small nm production line, or a larger SSD model though. |
What would be the biggest leap?
Honestly I'm kind of not surprised...
They do a mid-ranged handheld device which is dockable, that would cover a decent range from low-end to mid-end but then they can also do a suped up Xbox console, stupidly powerful but still less expensive than PC hardware, it will be aimed at selling it at a profit.
I would probably buy both, Lol.
I thought the unique hardware is an obvious reference to a handheld? Lol.
New Series stuff this year is probably the digital only device.
As a Nintendo, Xbox, and PC gamer, I think every company should put their non-system sellers on all platforms.
If we want sequels to games we love, we need the original game to make more profit. Releasing them on other platforms can unlock that.
Games that move hardware score many indirect profit points through other software purchased down the line from the hardware that was purchased because of that original game and therefore don't need the extra boost a multiplatform release could provide in order to have more games greenlit for that studio. But many games don't move hardware like others.
Ryuu96 said:
I'm confused, are you saying they should port Halo to PlayStation to get people to consider getting into Xbox? Just clarifying. Think Pentiment is more about throwing Josh Sawyer a bone Tbh, it's a utterly niche ass passion project and Josh Sawyer said he wanted it on other platforms long ago, it's going to do absolutely nothing for Xbox hardware, heck, 90% of Xbox gamers probably don't even know about it, haha. But it's such a gem which deserves to be played by as many as possible and will have ZERO affect on Xbox hardware. Sea of Thieves/Grounded are more about maintaining their communities, they're both years old, likely reaching a saturation point on Xbox hardware, eventually it will be "shutdown" or...you can port the game and it gets even more life, honestly these niche titles and GaaS titles don't really make sense keeping exclusive for years on end, at the end of the day it's not about the Xbox hardware for these but the health of the games themselves. |
Yeah, this will do nothing for Xbox. A Gamepass filler and year old online multiplayer games. HiFi Rush is at least something.
I think they should port Halo, yes. That franchise could use some new players. Same with Gears. Then the new games in those franchises will be exclusive to Xbox. THAT would at least draw in some people. If thats even what they are really going for. Throwing a few decent games on other platforms will do nothing for them. I would be surprised if they even made their money back from them.
Can't wait for a handheld so I can look like the biggest hypocrite after trashing the switch.
Perfect for Switch Xbox Handheld. 
Would get both probs. 
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| KLXVER said: Yeah, this will do nothing for Xbox. A Gamepass filler and year old online multiplayer games. HiFi Rush is at least something. I think they should port Halo, yes. That franchise could use some new players. Same with Gears. Then the new games in those franchises will be exclusive to Xbox. THAT would at least draw in some people. If thats even what they are really going for. Throwing a few decent games on other platforms will do nothing for them. I would be surprised if the even made their money back from them. |
Sorry, but I do not think you know those games enough if you believe that...
Sea of Thieves and Grounded alone are going to generate a lot of revenue if they are coming to Switch and Play Station; and if anything they have numbers in front of them before to make those decisions... They already know that it is most likely going to be beneficial.
But anyway, that's a no-brainer and why would they not? You talk like nobody likes or wants to play those games. Those games are VERY popular already and there is really no reason at all why it would not be the case on other platforms.
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hence the "whereas" to start the sentence lol
