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Ryuu96 said:
Machiavellian said:

The reason why you do it at the beginning is because you give vendors a chance to get authorize but you also give customers a chance to not purchase unauthorized accessories.  If you start at the beginning, people usually already may have to get new controllers like the PS5 controller that works but older PS4 do not.  Doing it in the middle of the gen, a lot of people will have invested in probable expensive controllers like myself who owns a few fighting sticks that I am sure is not certified.  Now that investment is done and its going to piss off a lot of vocal people.

A year out isn't going to make a difference if you spent more than 200 bucks for a controller and now its done.  It also puts a negative light on the whole eco system at a time when they were gaining traction.  This move will not do anything with cheaters because cheaters as we have seen will always find a way to circumvent such measures.

Why I don't think it makes much of a difference is because so many controllers nowadays are cross-compatible between consoles and Microsoft for one heavily pushes that, I think people nowadays are conditioned into the expectation that their devices should work on whatever the next Xbox is, therefore no matter when you do it, there will be people who will be upset. Of course you can't use your PS5 controller on a PS4 but you can use your PS4 controller on a PS5 and you can use devices designed for PS4/Xbox One on PS5/Xbox Series and that expectation will likely continue into the next console.

I think 1 year is plenty of time for Microsoft to pull their fingers out their ass and establish a smooth process for a mass amount of approvals of 3rd party companies, it doesn't even have to be straight approvals either, they can whitelist a bunch of trusted companies before approval and cover a huge portion of the market by combining the two solutions.

This move is surely all about cheaters because no other reason makes much sense and if it doesn't matter then why bother doing anything about cheaters at all? That's completely defeatist and there's no point ever trying to stop cheaters with that attitude, while right now, games like Call of Duty and rampant with them, hence why the shooter community is celebrating.

Imo, if this move significantly harms the capability to cheat then it's more than worth it, as long as Microsoft gives enough of a heads up and mass approves a bunch of legit 3rd party controllers and fight sticks, across multiple companies, I'd say to aim for around at least 80% of the market of the legit 3rd party controllers with either approvals or whitelists. The pros will then outweigh the cons Imo. Having said that, Microsoft has not done the above, they did not communicate at all, they didn't give a heads up, they've not done mass approvals before the ban, it's now a mess.

Sorry Ryu but on this i dont stand with you. For me it feels like your trying to make this look like not as bad or some kind of good thing or just making excuses when the is nothing good about it.

This is a shitty move on MS no other company as far as i know is doing this so why should MS in the middle of the gen>,

Ms is doing plenty of shitty moves lately from the price of the Series S in brasil to this no excuse and im drunk and still cant think of a good excuse for why they would be doing what they doing lately. If this how Ms going to be think im going to be leaving this thread to be honest guys and just going back to the Pc thread...



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zero129 said:
Ryuu96 said:

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Sorry Ryu but on this i dont stand with you. For me it feels like your trying to make this look like not as bad or some kind of good thing or just making excuses when the is nothing good about it.

This is a shitty move on MS no other company as far as i know is doing this so why should MS in the middle of the gen>,

Ms is doing plenty of shitty moves lately from the price of the Series S in brasil to this no excuse and im drunk and still cant think of a good excuse for why they would be doing what they doing lately. If this how Ms going to be think im going to be leaving this thread to be honest guys and just going back to the Pc thread...

You can start by not replying to me when you're drunk.



Wow, so it was confirmed.

Dude straight up removed all references to Bungie on his site...I'm actually speechless, Bungie has lost the damn plot, it would be one thing for Michael to want to retire or move on to another company but for Bungie to lay him off is insane. I know a ton of Bungie veterans have left the company over the years but still, what has happened to Bungie man.

Over 20 years of service and they lay him off like that. Michael Salvatori deserves just as much credit as Marty O'Donnell on Halo's music but Marty is the one who got the fame, Michael was happy to just sit in the background out of the spotlight but he co-composed Halo 1, 2, 3, ODST and Reach with Marty alongside co-composing Destiny 1, 2 and the expansions.

I hope that he goes freelance, he is too talented to restrict himself to one company.

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According to Jaywood and a few other sources, the Brazilian price hike has already been reversed.

Making your voice heard works.



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DroidKnight said:

According to Jaywood and a few other sources, the Brazilian price hike has already been reversed.

Making your voice heard works.

Not yet, Xbox Brazil said that the update to the update was a mistake, Lmao. So keep up the pressure.

Xbox Brazil is ran by legit morons (technically, they're ran by Xbox Mexico) so wait until the mothership says something (Xbox US).

Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 31 October 2023

Has a point and I think even before this that Activision may have been getting all the blame when it could have been Bungie.



Ryuu96 said:
DroidKnight said:

According to Jaywood and a few other sources, the Brazilian price hike has already been reversed.

Making your voice heard works.

Not yet, Xbox Brazil said that the update to the update was a mistake, Lmao. So keep up the pressure.

Xbox Brazil is ran by legit morons (technically, they're ran by Xbox Mexico) so wait until the mothership says something (Xbox US).

Gotcha.  



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