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Q. And so, at the end of the day, I'm still trying to understand why you think it is that Activision decided not to include any titles in Xbox game cloud -- strike that -- Xbox, xCloud or Game Pass?

A. What we find in the market, and I don't know if it's true in Activision Blizzard, is certain parties are afraid of repercussions from our competitor, if they support specific platform initiatives that we might have. That was never relayed to me as part of the Activision discussion, but other publishers have talked to me about how too much support for Xbox might hurt them in some other relationships.

Q. And what other relationships?

A. With Sony.

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This shit is pretty bad too but don't see anyone talking about it

Why I really don't agree with the takes that Microsoft can simply compete by not doing any acquiring.



Omfg. Lmfao.



Damn we have first hand evidence of this literal DEVIL scheming to acquire Nintendo, I bet he slipped every Nintendo employee there a bribe and whispered in their ears "Microsoft sends their regards".

Sickening.





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I wonder if Oblivion or Fallout 3 remastered will hit 2024.



jason1637 said:

I wonder if Oblivion or Fallout 3 remastered will hit 2024.

Oblivion is listed on the sheet as being 2 years before Fallout 3 so Fallout 3 is not anytime soon.

If we assume the list has a roughly 2 year delay to it then Oblivion could potentially be 2024.



Ryuu96 said:

Feels ambitious, ABK will "only" get them $23bn-$24bn.

Suppose when XGS and Zenimax are firing on all cylinders we could add another few billion but ABK is $8bn and they're the biggest publisher on the planet so that's the ceiling for XGS and Zenimax, Lol. Lets say they added another few billion though to $26bn - $27bn.

Idk man...Gaming is currently about $16bn IIRC and ABK brings it to $23bn-$24bn but they'd have to add $12bn-$13bn in 7 years.

I just can't see that happening...

They're expecting hardware to almost double and subscriptions to double.  

That year would be 3rd year probably for a successor, so probably would be basically peak hardware sales. 

Subscriptions seem ambitious. 

They also had gaming at 18billion in the chart for 2022.  

18 billion + biggest hardware year (perhaps with Series X/S continuing to sell at a discount) + Activision + continued gamepass growth... Maybe.

But it kind of feels like subscriptions everywhere in the games and movies spaces have stagnated. So that feels mighty ambitious.  



Ryuu96 said:
shikamaru317 said:

Yeah, +2 years sounds about right to me, at least up until we reach the licensed IP and TES 6, which I think will be even further out that 2026. So that would make the Zenimax lineup:

2024

  • Starfield DLC
  • ESO Expansion
  • Oblivion Remaster
  • Indiana Jones (Q4 2024)

2025

  • Doom Year Zero
  • Zenimax Online Project Kestrel
  • Project Platinum (no idea which studio is making this one)

2026

  • Ghostwire Tokyo 2
  • Dishonored 3

Project Platinum is MachineGames (I saw people say this, haven't confirmed it myself).

Did the rumours of Tango working on a JRPG come from a reliable source? I have a hard time believing they're working on Ghostwire Tokyo 2 Tbh...But I would expect multiple teams from Tango so maybe it's possible.

Dishonoured 3 would be led by Arkane Lyon, right? Who just finished up Deathloop?

I'm excited for Doom Year Zero, the title scream origin story but at the same time I'm a little "disappointed" that it's Doom again instead of a Quake reboot. I still love Doom though and it's an amazing franchise but I would have liked to see Quake revived properly as Doom already got that love.

Project Kestrel...2025...Seems about right...Maybe a reveal at E3 2024.

2024 will be interesting. If we get an Oblivion remaster and Indiana Jones in the same year, damn. Oblivion remaster should be moved away from Avowed which I expect will be Holiday 2024 so Oblivion ideally in Early 2024 but then we have Starfield's expansion, Lmao. Then we don't know where Hellblade, Towerborne and Flight Sim 2024 will land.

Did the Oblivion remaster leak (the original one) claim it was releasing in 2024?

The revenue expectations for Platinum seem a bit low for Wolfenstein 3, though I suppose it could be a new IP from Machine. However, considering Machine is only 157 people on LinkedIn, I just don't see how they have the staff to release two games back to back one year apart like these financials show is the plan, unless Machine is one of those studios like The Coalition that is greatly underrepresented on LinkedIn. The only other possibility I can think of for Platinum would be that it's the Roundhouse first game, but then Roundhouse seems quite small, and is reportedly working with Arkane Austin to fix Redfall and finish it's DLC characters, so they may not have the staff to be working on Platinum either. Platinum seems like a real headscratcher, unless it is Wolfenstein 3 and alot of the work on it was already finished from 2017-2019 (when they got the Indiana Jones license and postpoined Wolfenstein 3), giving them a foundation to quickly build off of and get Wolfenstein 3 out just 1 year after Indiana.

The Tango JRPG leak came from a source that got some things right in the past, such as Kojima's Overdose game and the Baiten Kaitos remaster, so I suppose Tango could be split in two again just like they were when making HiFi and Ghostwire 1 simultaneously, except this time Ghostwire 2 and a smaller JRPG.

Probably Arkane Lyon leading in order to make that release schedule as there is too small of a gap between Redfall and Dishonored 3 on that schedule for Austin to lead, though Austin could have joined them after Redfall released to make it a collaborative effort.

I think they'll get around to the Quake reboot eventually, probably next after Doom Year Zero.

2024 is indeed looking to be a wild year if nothing is delayed. 2024 for Xbox/Bethesda is looking like Starfield DLC, ESO expansion, Oblivion Remaster, Indiana Jones, Flight Sim 2024, Towerborne, Avowed, Forza Horizon 6, Hellblade, and Ara. 

The original leaker, who was said to be a disgruntled former employee at the studio that Bethesda is collaborating with to remaster Oblivion, said that when he left the studio they were aiming for late 2024 or early 2025, with the decision on date being partially based on if they decided to stick with the current plan of making the game more of a remaster, or deciding to make it more of a remake with more improvements. So if it stayed a remaster, late 2024, if it was expanded into a remake, early-mid 2025 I guess.