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As a Consumer Would You Rather?

Traditional Console + Everything Exclusive 13 38.24%
 
Xbox/PC Hybrid + Access t... 21 61.76%
 
Total:34

@Ryuu96 



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Ryuu96 said:

Lol Stein. Funny as well to see a few journos become a bit sensitive about that tweet, Xbox is "stirring shit" and because of that tweet they better have an amazing showcase, Lol. What. Naughty Xbox for telling their consumers what games are coming to their platform of choice in an easy to read graphic, Sony can do the same for all I care.

Isn't it common practice for Xbox, PlayStation, and Nintendo to tweet about games coming to their platform? Is IGN mad because Sony's showcase was a flop? Oh well, can't take it out on Xbox.



Ryuu96 said:

What classifies as "easy gamerscore" though? Tell Tale games included in that? or just games where it's like a 30-minute completion to 1k?



NobleTeam360 said:
Ryuu96 said:

Lol Stein. Funny as well to see a few journos become a bit sensitive about that tweet, Xbox is "stirring shit" and because of that tweet they better have an amazing showcase, Lol. What. Naughty Xbox for telling their consumers what games are coming to their platform of choice in an easy to read graphic, Sony can do the same for all I care.

Isn't it common practice for Xbox, PlayStation, and Nintendo to tweet about games coming to their platform? Is IGN mad because Sony's showcase was a flop? Oh well, can't take it out on Xbox.

Oh yeah, IGN is definitely mad about Sony's showcase



gtotheunit91 said:

100% the sentiment I have towards the showcase. Xbox has the confidence that Starfield is going to be such a massive impact on the gaming industry that they're dedicating its own time to it. Almost down to 2 weeks away!

Never forget that Nintendo rocked up to E3 2016 with literally nothing but Breath of the Wild gaming booths. Look how that turned out.



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gtotheunit91 said:

I'm starting to think you were recently in London

I wonder what kind of games ads you would've seen post-June 11th lol. Good to see marketing is already starting, then kick it into overdrive after the showcase.

It was great - first time in London (and Europe overall). Went to Paris for a few days too.

Spent the last two weeks but glad to be back home lol - was getting sick of traveling under Uber, the bus and the Underground trains.

Wouldnt live in either London or Paris but great places to visit.

Also worth mentioning, Mona Lisa painting is overhyped - the painting opposite of it was something - Wedding at Cana.

Anyways never see ads of video games where I live in Texas so was quite a surprise.









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gtotheunit91 said:
NobleTeam360 said:

Isn't it common practice for Xbox, PlayStation, and Nintendo to tweet about games coming to their platform? Is IGN mad because Sony's showcase was a flop? Oh well, can't take it out on Xbox.

Oh yeah, IGN is definitely mad about Sony's showcase

I'd just IGNore them considering that IGN have never been able to hide their biases. 



BasilZero said:

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Anyways never see ads of video games where I live in Texas so was quite a surprise.

I'm not in London but at the other side of the country and I've never seen any advertising here from Xbox or Nintendo outside of the TV, Sony on the other hand put up billboards and plaster the side of busses with a few months of marketing every time they release a first/second party game much like you see with the biggest movie releases and it always surprised me how much marketing Sony were willing to put in since the start of the PS4 days compared to their console rivals about the only time I see some Xbox is advertising something like the NBA games in between Rugby or Cricket on Sky Sports lol.