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BFR said:
RolStoppable said:

I am sure you haven't seen any legit videos of the four others doing it.

Why do I need to see videos of the others doing it? The photos speak for themselves.

No they don't, taken out of context.

https://www.newsweek.com/barack-obama-kamala-harris-nazi-salutes-elon-musk-2019092

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While Newsweek cannot verify the intention of Musk's inauguration gesture, none of the Democratic politicians mentioned above have expressed support for the far-right groups or individuals that Musk has, a fact neglected from the social media posts by Libs of TikTok and others.

The gesture that Musk made also bears a more similar resemblance to Hitler's fascist gesture, adopted by modern-era hard-right groups, of repeatedly moving the arm from the chest and into a salute. While Musk repeated his gesture only twice, there is an arguable similarity, regardless of Musk's intention.

 

Reaction to Musk's behavior has been mixed. The Anti-Defamation League (ADL), posting in part in response to criticism of Musk's gesture on X, wrote: "It seems that @elonmusk made an awkward gesture in a moment of enthusiasm, not a Nazi salute, but again, we appreciate that people are on edge.

"In this moment, all sides should give one another a bit of grace, perhaps even the benefit of the doubt, and take a breath."

In response to the ADL, Democratic Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez wrote: "Just to be clear, you are defending a Heil Hitler salute that was performed and repeated for emphasis and clarity.

"People can officially stop listening to you as any sort of reputable source of information now. You work for them. Thank you for making that crystal clear to all."

Libs of TikTok, the social media account that has received the most views for making the comparison between Musk and other public figures, is considered a highly influential right-wing commentator whose content has been promoted by Donald Trump Jr., and Tucker Carlson among other conservatives.



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BFR said:
forest-spirit said:

But we are focusing on what Trump and Musk does. Musk just did a nazi salute and is openly supporting extreme-right parties like AfD. Trump is acting like a Putin-wannabe and just sent Denmark, a supposed ally, into crisis mode.

And if you're serious about the photos of Harris, Obama etc. being equal to Musk's dual-heil moment then I don't think there's much hope for you.

Musk is a businessman, not a politician. Why are some of you so obsessed with him? Trump has only talked about Denmark and Greenland, he hasn't done anything about either country.

He's not just a businessman, he is the richest man in the world, with one of the biggest social media platforms in the world, with the ear of the President. The fucker was seen more with Musk than Goddamn JD Vance who is the Vice President. He has regularly tried to interfere in countries politics and only recently he interfered in a US House Vote! Successfully! So no he's not just a businessman, he is an oligarch and a Nazi at that.

"Only talked" Bollocks. He has straight up threatened Denmark multiple times, he wants to steal their land from them, like Russia. You don't care because you're from America. The big tough bully of the world. Your country can get away with whatever it wants so it's okay to try to bully people. You don't understand what it feels like. You never will.

If only America was a tiny ass country and then Russia came and threatened America to hand over Hawaii or else, then I'm sure you'd have a different tune being on the receiving end. You can't even understand what it feels like now to have someone threaten America because you know America would stomp them. Now put yourself in the shoes of someone who cannot stand up to a bully.

Russia is laughing their asses off at this shit, America's allies now in fear of both America and Russia, alliances are breaking down. Attention split between defending Ukraine and batting off America's nonsense. Ukraine's 2nd strongest supporter now has to worry about defending itself from an unhinged nutjob threatening them, whether those threats are likely or not.

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BFR said:
SanAndreasX said:

Denmark and Canada aren't taking these threats lightly. I'd imagine they have more insight on the situation than some randos on VGChartz. Even if he is joking, he's sowing distrust amongst countries that are supposed to be allies. It's dangerously irresponsible, at best.  But particularly in the case of Greenland, he is not joking.

Greenland is not up for sale. Do you agree with that statement?

Canada is not up for sale either.

Trump is not crazy enough to take either country with military force, so both are safe.

“Greenland is not up for sale.” I absolutely agree with that statement. 

Whether a land is up for sale really hasn’t mattered in past instances of American manifest destiny. Texas and California weren’t for sale, either. 

I’m unconvinced that Trump isn’t crazy enough to take Greenland by military force. What he will likely try first, however, are sanctions to pressure Denmark into turning control of Greenland over to him. If those don’t work? Denmark will not be able to stand up to the U.S. military. Not the first time the U.S. would have used its muscle to take territory. Apparently won’t be the last. We’ve thought he wasn’t crazy enough to do XYZ before, until he did. 

Denmark certainly thinks he’s crazy enough to do it. He spent an awful lot of time on the phone with the Danish PM trying to get them to see things his way, and making it clear he would hurt them if they didn’t. 



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In Belarus, 87.6% of voters "supported" Lukashenko in the presidential election, according to exit polls. A clear joke of an election with no legitimacy. The EU already said they will not recognize the elections in Belarus, calling it an insult to democracy.

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— NOELREPORTS (@noelreports.com) 26 January 2025 at 17:18

Why do they never even bother making the number seem real? Like 55-60% or even the low 70s.



BFR said:
RolStoppable said:

This mindset is exactly why Americans do such a stupid thing as re-electing Trump.

Yep, that's America.....were just a bunch of stupid.evil.idiot.rednecks.  (SARCASM!)

Now that you know the truth that you were lied to about these photos, what do you think?



Legend11 correctly predicted that GTA IV will outsell Super Smash Bros. Brawl. I was wrong.

Bruh, I am just looking this up and it's even more wild than typical bullshitting about the vote.

Aside from Lukashenko, there are four candidates on the ballot. Three of them represent pro-Lukashenko parties.

One of them, Oleg Gaidukevich is under personal sanctions by the European Union, the United Kingdom, the United States, Canada, Switzerland and other states. During the elections, Oleg, whilst running against Lukashenko said "It's obvious that Lukashenko will win" and told other candidates to "Make Lukashenko's enemies nauseous" and in 2020 became a confidant of Lukashenko.

Then there's Sergei Syrankov who is also pro-Lukashenko and during the election, whilst he was "running against Lukashenko" publicly and openly backed Lukashenko for President (What?!) and said "There is no alternative to Lukashenko as the leader of our country" and "So, we are taking part in the election with the President's team".

The only candidate critical of Lukashenko was Hanna Kanapatskaya but as we already know, the last person to oppose Lukashenko got him rattled so he imprisoned him on bullshit charges, Sergei Tikhanovsky, so his wife ran in his place, who was believed to have won but Lukashenko rigged it against her, then arrested her and forced her into exile, she faces a 15 year jail sentence if she returns.

I knew he was crooked as fuck but wow this is so blatant.

In his imaginary 87.6% does that include the 3 political parties who publicly supported Lukashenko whilst "running against him" Lol.



RolStoppable said:
BFR said:

Yep, that's America.....were just a bunch of stupid.evil.idiot.rednecks.  (SARCASM!)

Now that you know the truth that you were lied to about these photos, what do you think?

I just want to know who you think will win today's NFL games?



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