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⚡️ Donald Trump, French President Emmanuel Macron, and Volodymyr Zelensky have begun talks in Paris, reports BFMTV. Ahead of the meeting, Trump remarked, "The world is a little crazy right now," explaining his visit to Paris to address global challenges.

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— NOELREPORTS (@noelreports.com) 7 December 2024 at 17:36

🇺🇦🤝🇬🇪 Zelensky met with Georgian President Salome Zourabichvili. "Ukraine stands in solidarity with the Georgian people as they fight for a dignified future. It's crucial to respect their voice and prevent Ivanishvili’s government from handing Georgia to Putin," he said.

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— NOELREPORTS (@noelreports.com) 7 December 2024 at 17:49

🇺🇦⚡️ "Our position is for a just peace. We agreed to keep working together," Zelensky said after talks with Trump and Macron. He emphasized the value of partners hearing Ukraine's stance "directly, not through third parties."

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— NOELREPORTS (@noelreports.com) 7 December 2024 at 18:13


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At least Hitler saved us all the trouble and put a bullet in his brains.

Fucking coward. His disgusting regime ending in such a pathetic whimper.



Ryuu96 said:

At least Hitler saved us all the trouble and put a bullet in his brains.

Fucking coward. His disgusting regime ending in such a pathetic whimper.

At least it's not another massacre. After 300,000 killed in the past decade, this is a good outcome.

He will be hunted. France already has an arrest warrant for Assad, and the ICC should follow as well.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn0090vrxgwo

The ICC is slow, claims against filed in 2019, still no arrest warrant
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-47483714

The warrants for Netanyahu etc were already under investigation since 2015.
https://www.icc-cpi.int/palestine
It took them 9 years and a live streamed genocide to finally issue warrants... Yet now a lot more evidence should come to the surface and Assad's world will get a lot smaller.




SvennoJ said:
Ryuu96 said:

At least Hitler saved us all the trouble and put a bullet in his brains.

Fucking coward. His disgusting regime ending in such a pathetic whimper.

At least it's not another massacre. After 300,000 killed in the past decade, this is a good outcome.

He will be hunted. France already has an arrest warrant for Assad, and the ICC should follow as well.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn0090vrxgwo

The ICC is slow, claims against filed in 2019, still no arrest warrant
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-47483714

The warrants for Netanyahu etc were already under investigation since 2015.
https://www.icc-cpi.int/palestine
It took them 9 years and a live streamed genocide to finally issue warrants... Yet now a lot more evidence should come to the surface and Assad's world will get a lot smaller.

Yeah, I hope documents and evidence aren't destroyed in the fighting and the rebels if they're serious hand them over to the ICC and other bodies, I'm surprised ICC hasn't put an arrest warrant out on Assad though I imagine he will just flee to Russia or somewhere else that doesn't recognise ICC.



⚡️ Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and his family have fled to Abu Dhabi, according to Turkish outlets citing UAE sources. CNN sources confirm Assad is no longer in Damascus.

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That's it then, the end of the Assad regime, collapsed in under a few weeks after years of brutal control and Russia's ultimate poster boy fallen.

I'm sad he wasn't captured but not surprised, all these brutal dictators whether it be Assad, Hitler, Putin, etc. They're all fucking cowards in the end, I would want Europe to put diplomatic pressure on UAE to hand Assad over for him to face justice but I know that's unlikely to happen and it's definitely not going to come from America under Trump.

Hope Assad's forces surrender and avoid as much bloodshed as possible, their leader has abandoned them, lay down your arms and don't be stupid.

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Actually, one last appeal to the Trump Admin.

Fella thinks his regime will still be standing by January. Dude acting like he ever gave a shit about minorities. And finally, who gives a fuck about him cutting ties with Hezbollah? HTS taking over has the same consequence because Hezbollah is HTS enemy. Trump admin is braindead if they entertain this offer but I assume Tulsi will be there cheerleading for Assad.

"If you save me, I'll do all the things HTS taking over would automatically achieve!" Like what kind of offer is this? HTS hate Iran, they hate Hezbollah, they hate Houthis. Assad basically saying "Hey guys save me and I'll stop funding the terrorists that have been giving you issues for years" Lol. Fuck off with that bollocks.

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On Thursday, nearly 100 former diplomats, national security officials and intelligence officials wrote to Senate leaders expressing alarm at Gabbard's nomination. The former officials, who have served under both Democratic and Republican administrations, urged closed-door confirmation hearings to allow lawmakers to carry out a full review of government information about Gabbard.

"Several of Ms. Gabbard's past actions call into question her ability to deliver unbiased intelligence briefings to the President, Congress, and to the entire national security apparatus," the letter stated.

"We'll have lots of questions. She met with Bashar Assad, we'll want to know what the purpose was and what the direction for that was, as a member of Congress," Lankford told CNN.

One former senior intelligence official said Gabbard's statements on Syria called into question her willingness to accept facts that don't fit her world view.

"She basically completely adopted the Assad regime propaganda, where she suggested falsely that the U.S. was supporting terrorist extremists in Syria, and didn't mention that the Assad regime had been slaughtering fellow Syrians there," the former official said. "So what does that say about her judgment?"

Some lawmakers and former intelligence officials say they worry that America's partners, including those in the vital "Five Eyes" intelligence alliance -- the United States, Britain, Canada, Australia and New Zealand -- may choose to withhold some sensitive information if they distrusted Gabbard as director of intelligence.

Nikki Haley, the former Republican governor of South Carolina who served as ambassador to the United Nations in the first Trump administration, has sharply criticized Gabbard's nomination, saying her statements showed she was not ready to assess threats to the United States.

"After Russia invaded Ukraine, Tulsi Gabbard literally blamed NATO, our western alliance that's responsible for countering Russia," Haley said on her Sirius XM radio show last week. "She blamed NATO for the attack on Ukraine, and the Russians and the Chinese echoed her talking points and her interviews on Russian and Chinese television."

She added: "This is not a place for a Russian, Iranian, Syrian, Chinese sympathizer."

Democrats and Republicans in Congress worried that Gabbard might leak information to Syria



They've giving Alawites the proper respect in words at least, I think Europe should make a genuine but cautious attempt with HTS, don't need to trust them but if they are saying they will do all these things then what is the harm in at least trying, if they're bullshitting us then fine, we tried, if they aren't bullshitting us then we can help bring some stability to the region. The militia factions will need to unite under a proper government control and the Kurdish factions should be allowed to remain free and independent, meanwhile we should tell Türkiye to fuck off. I think it's worth attempting some sort of dialogue before Russia and Türkiye try to fuck up the region even more.

Okay, you're saying all this stuff, so prove it and we will reward you in return, you moderate yourselves and make genuine attempts at unity then we will lift sanctions one by one, destroy the chemical weapons and we will restore diplomatic relations and can seek justice against Assad together, keep improving the situation and we will keep improving our relations with Syria. Show proper government leadership and we will recognise you as a proper government. This is probably the best we're going to get, might as well at least try to improve things.

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For stability, Türkiye needs to be kicked out too, such a shame a powerful ally like Türkiye is led by a twat like Erdogan.