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Sweden Wants To Donate 14 Gripens To Ukraine.  I hope that Ukraine gratefully accepts these planes.  If Ukraine wishes to join NATO, then it will probably be required of Ukraine to have a sizable air force.  They will also have to use them to ensure peace on their borders so that a repeat of this invasion cannot happen. 

https://aviationweek.com/defense/budget-policy-operations/sweden-wants-donate-14-gripens-ukraine

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Sweden to Fund Production of Long-Range Weapons for Ukraine. The Swedish Defense Minister said that Ukraine is free to use Swedish weapons as it sees fit, including on Russian territory.

https://www.kyivpost.com/post/42686



Half of Russia's Airbus Fleet Now Obsolete Due To Sanctions: Russian Media

https://www.newsweek.com/russia-ukraine-planes-sanctions-1989306





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Trump’s Vow to End the War Could Leave Ukraine With Few Options
One question is whether the new administration and Europe will provide security guarantees to prevent Russia from taking more territory.





https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/21/us/politics/trump-russia-ukraine-war.html



SanAndreasX said:
shavenferret said:

It's an odd statement though.  It's just like when we were in grade school and the big kid picks on the little kid.  But there's a plot twist to the usual story, and the small kid has some moves and opens up a can of whupass on the bully.  

Usually nobody has any sympathy for the bully.  

But why is there sympathy for Russia?  I mean, everybody hates them right now?  

It's actually the opposite, at least in the schools I went to. The bully gets away with being a bully. When the small kid decides to get some payback in, the same school administrators who looked the other way, freak out, and the victim is the one who gets punished.

So this checks out. 

A friend of mine went to a school where they went by the "it takes two to start a fight" way of thinking and punished the victim the same as the bully. When he, as the victim, protested, he was sent to the director along with the teacher. He tried to argue but fell on deaf ears. So he then said he would make an experiment and slapped his teacher, to which the director said he would get expulsed on the spot. He then asked if the teacher would also get expulsed since they punish the victim the same way as they punish the perpetrator, which left the director in a bind since the student's uncle was a lawyer and could easily play the favoritism and even race card (he's mixed black/filipino) for this incident.

Two days later they changed the rules so that victims wouldn't get punished the same way as perpetrators do.



No surprise. Are countries even committed to arrest Putin? I guess he doesn't travel much with his health.

Moscow says ICC warrant decision on Israeli leaders ‘insignificant’ for Russia

Russia has shrugged off the International Criminal Court’s issuing of arrest warrants for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and former Israeli Defence Minister Yoav Gallant, The Associated Press news agency reports.

Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov said on Friday that, as Russia does not recognise the court’s jurisdiction, any decision of the ICC was “insignificant”.

Peskov declined to comment on whether the warrants might place pressure on Israel to end its attacks across the Middle East, saying they were “unlikely to help anything”.

“Well, in general, the actions of the ICC are unlikely to help anything. That’s the first thing. And secondly, we don’t see any point in commenting on this in any way, because for us these rulings are insignificant,” he said.

The ICC last year issued an arrest warrant for Russian President Vladimir Putin and a number of other top Russian officials, accusing them of war crimes in Ukraine.

Moscow, however, considers them “null and void”.

I guess it's something the US and Russia can agree on... War criminals vs international law.