By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close

Forums - Politics Discussion - Russia and Ukraine flashpoint

Ryuu96 on 07 August 2024



Around the Network
Ryuu96 on 07 August 2024



Bofferbrauer2 on 07 August 2024

Looks like the Ukrainian conquest of Russia has started ;)

In all seriouness, this will force Russia to divert a sizeable amount of troops from other fronts to the Kursk Oblast to stabilize that front. Would be funny if while trying to conquer Chasiv Yar from Ukraine, Ukraine would take Kursk from Russia...



The Nintendo eShop rating Thread: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=237454 List as Google Doc:  https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aW2hXQT1TheElVS7z-F3pP-7nbqdrDqWNTxl6JoJWBY/edit?usp=sharing

The Steam/GOG key gifting thread: https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread/242024/the-steamgog-key-gifting-thread/1/ 

Free Pc Games thread: https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread/248138/free-pc-games/1/

Ryuu96 on 07 August 2024

UPD: From NSC John Kirby about the events in the Kursk region: "I'll let the Ukrainians speak to their operations, one way or the other, that's most appropriate. So I would refer you to the Ukrainian Armed Forces to speak to what they're doing. We're going to stay focused on making sure they have what they need to defend themselves. ... I would add that we would be reaching out to our Ukrainian counterparts to get a little bit better understanding."

“Ultimately, the decisions about how Ukraine conducts its military operations are decisions that Ukraine makes,” DoS Spox tells me

“I have seen the statements from the Russian government is a little bit rich - them calling up to the provocation given Russia violated Ukraine's territorial integrity and sovereignty, you said, 900 days, and actually goes back much longer. That goes back to 2014 and continues to illegally occupy Ukrainian territory. Ultimately, the decisions about how Ukraine conducts its military operations are decisions that Ukraine makes.”

"It's not unusual for the Ukrainians not to notify us that their exact tactics before, before they execute them. It's a war that they they're conducting. We provide them with equipment. We provide them with advice, but when it comes to the kind of day by day tactics that they carry out, strikes that they take, sometimes more communications about them, sometimes we're not. It's appropriate for them to make those decisions"



Ryuu96 on 07 August 2024

Jake Sullivan must be locked up in a dungeon somewhere cause that's the most "we don't give a fuck" statement I've seen from America in a while.

Let me get this straight though, Ukraine can full on invade Russia, using Ukraine military, not just the "Russian Volunteer Legion" but the actual Armed Forces of Ukraine, utterly embarrass Russia and Russia does...Nothing as per usual, aside from you know, fight a war like they've been doing the past 2 years, but long-range missiles on Russian planes of war is too escalatory? Lol.

This invasion has just shown once again, for the 50th time, how utterly stupid these red-lines are which the West enforces on itself.

Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 07 August 2024

Around the Network
Ryuu96 on 07 August 2024

Europe is also "we don't give a fuck"



Ryuu96 on 07 August 2024

Russian State Duma accused UK of preparing an offensive by the Ukrainian Armed Forces in the Kursk region

===

God, I wish. If it were up to me we'd give Ukraine Storm Shadow 550km variant and tell em that Moscow is over there.

Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 07 August 2024

Ryuu96 on 07 August 2024


Ryuu96 on 07 August 2024

Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 07 August 2024

shavenferret on 07 August 2024
Ryuu96 said:

It's pretty easy to be quick to dismiss the Ukrainian offensive operation in Russia's Kursk as "just a PR stunt" and criticize it, given the dire situation at Porkovsk and Toretsk.

That, indeed, might be a bad idea.

At the same time, it's very hard to ignore the fact that...

- given Russia's strategic superiority in resources and manpower and given Russia's readiness to tolerate inadequate losses, putting their flags over lifeless ruins of Ukrainian towns at any cost,

- given Ukraine's own chronic problems and constraints in its ability to fight a full-scale total war in the 21st-century environment against one of the world's largest militaries,

- given how chronically slow Western defense aid is and how reluctant the West is in making decisions and dropping its "escalation management" limitations,

...Ukraine may need to focus even more on asymmetrical tactics and out-of-the-box solutions that hit Russia hard where it doesn't expect.

Just fighting through walls of endless Russian frontal attacks slowly closing in under the rain of gliding bombs for months and years is a bleak perspective.

Especially in a situation where the aggressor spends over two years enjoying perfectly safe havens in its territory to concentrate its forces, unfold its logistics, etc., for bombing campaigns and new offensive operations -- because heaven forbid Ukraine strikes back too hard.

We'll see.

And no, "just surrender then" is not an option.

I just hope that they don't push too far and get too eager, because the counterattack could be very bad.  Still if they are here to stay in the game then so be it, just please do it wisely, Ukraine.  Hope they don't repeat the costly losses that the offensives last year had.    The point that you had about the assymetrical tactics was prescient, because Russia is all about doing everything by the book.  They can't break free of that and do something unexpected to save their lives.