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Slovakia and Serbia be like:



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Joint Security Commitments between Ukraine and the European Union — Official website of the President of Ukraine

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Agreement on Security Cooperation between Ukraine and the Republic of Lithuania — Official website of the President of Ukraine



shavenferret said:

This sounds like the biggest Russian pipe dream that I've ever heard of.... Russia is planning a super carrier to counter US naval might. After all of the rebuilding of their land forces that they will have to do, now they want to build a super-carrier? Really?

https://www.eurasiantimes.com/russia-plans-90-000-ton-super-carriers-armed/amp/

Russia's Black Sea Fleet is being destroyed by a country without a navy and is at the mercy of Türkiye. Their Baltic Fleet is surrounded by NATO countries and basically in what could be called the "NATO Sea" now, thanks to their Ukraine shitshow they've basically made two of their fleets a non-factor, which leaves their Northern Fleet and Pacific Fleet.

Their Navy is a joke, America would wipe the floor with it, they can't even take their best ships out without having a tugboat shadow them 24/7 because of how many technical issues their ships have, their single aircraft carrier and flagship of their Navy looks like a dying dog whose owners refuse to see it's suffering and won't put it out of its misery.

They can build this, it still won't put them close to America's Navy



BFR said:

Another dumb ban, if Russia can use "totally not officially part of Russia's army" Wagner to cause havoc in Ukraine, Africa and even to attack fucking American troops in Syria then America can let military contractors work in Ukraine in a bloody non-combat operation. Especially when we're about to have North Koreans helping Russians (and we already have Iranians building drones to kill Ukrainians).



Ryuu96 said:

Damn that height difference between Zelensky and Nausieda.

Reminds me of the olden days of Helmut Kohl and Mitterand

Or even before that with Charles de Gaulle, which most of the time looked like a giant among his peers.



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Ryuu96 said:
shavenferret said:

This sounds like the biggest Russian pipe dream that I've ever heard of.... Russia is planning a super carrier to counter US naval might. After all of the rebuilding of their land forces that they will have to do, now they want to build a super-carrier? Really?

https://www.eurasiantimes.com/russia-plans-90-000-ton-super-carriers-armed/amp/

Russia's Black Sea Fleet is being destroyed by a country without a navy and is at the mercy of Türkiye. Their Baltic Fleet is surrounded by NATO countries and basically in what could be called the "NATO Sea" now, thanks to their Ukraine shitshow they've basically made two of their fleets a non-factor, which leaves their Northern Fleet and Pacific Fleet.

Their Navy is a joke, America would wipe the floor with it, they can't even take their best ships out without having a tugboat shadow them 24/7 because of how many technical issues their ships have, their single aircraft carrier and flagship of their Navy looks like a dying dog whose owners refuse to see it's suffering and won't put it out of its misery.

They can build this, it still won't put them close to America's Navy

It's gotta be propaganda.  Carriers are a lot more complicated than the smaller ships, and the last one they made is so bad that it isn't sailing.  And yeah towards your point, you'd think that they would work on smaller things to get the more basic stuff back into place that has been lost, like the smaller landing ships and corvettes.  



I wish these were the people that could be deported



Office of the Clerk, U.S. House of Representatives - Vote Details

These are the traitors who voted to block aid.

Though in I suppose, slightly optimistic news, the number has came down slightly, I don't know the reasons though, it could just simply be people sick of MTG, knowing the vote would fail, or thinking that since it has already been passed it would be ridiculous to now block it only a few months later, I don't really expect any have had a true change of heart.

VOTES - Ukraine Aid Bill

  • Yea: 311
  • Nay: 112
  • Present: 1
  • Not Voting: 7

VOTES - Block Ukraine Aid by Dumb Fuck MTG.

  • Aye: 76
  • No: 335
  • Present: 0
  • Not Voting: 26
Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 27 June 2024

Lets compare back to this = Ukraine Aid Benefits These Congressional Districts - The Washington Post

  • Bill Posey = Continues to be Against Aid
  • Anna Paulina = Continues to be Against Aid
  • Barry Moore = Continues to be Against Aid
  • Alex Mooney = Continues to be Against Aid
  • Diana Harshbarger = Continues to be Against Aid
  • Josh Brecheen = Continues to be Against Aid
  • Jim Jordan = Continues to be Against Aid
  • Lance Gooden = Continues to be Against Aid
  • Scott Perry = Continues to be Against Aid
  • John Joyce = Continues to be Against Aid
  • Jason Smith = Continues to be Against Aid
  • Mike Bost = Continues to be Against Aid

  • Alex Mooney = "Not Voting" in First Bill for Aid - In Favour of MTG's Attempt to Block Aid.
  • Matt Gaetz = "Nay" in First Bill For Aid - "Not Voting" in MTG's Block Attempt.

  • Blaine Luetkemeyer = "Not Voting" in First Bill for Aid - "No" Against MTG's Block Attempt.
  • Brandon Williams = "Not Voting" in First Bill for Aid - "No" Against MTG's Block Attempt.

  • Michael Guest = "Nay" in First Bill For Aid - "No" Against MTG's Block Attempt.
  • Trent Kelly = "Nay" in First Bill For Aid - "No" Against MTG's Block Attempt.
  • Glenn Grothman = "Nay" in First Bill For Aid - "No" Against MTG's Block Attempt.
  • Dale Strong = From "Nay" in First Bill For Aid - "No" Against MTG's Block Attempt.
Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 27 June 2024

Damn....... Biden did horrible in that, his halting and rambling answers are feeding the dementia comments.  Biden had that WAT look on his face during the course of the debate :-/ Europe is going to have to bankroll the Ukraine fight by themselves b/c Donald Trump will get a surge in the polls and it seems like his race to lose now.

Last edited by shavenferret - on 28 June 2024