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Polish farmers have ended the long protests at Ukraine's border. It's about time, this was getting ridiculous. The market and demand should set the economics of trade, not some law or trade agreement.

https://euromaidanpress.com/2024/04/29/polish-farmers-terminate-border-blockade-with-ukraine-easing-tensions/



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shavenferret said:

Polish farmers have ended the long protests at Ukraine's border. It's about time, this was getting ridiculous. The market and demand should set the economics of trade, not some law or trade agreement.

https://euromaidanpress.com/2024/04/29/polish-farmers-terminate-border-blockade-with-ukraine-easing-tensions/

Yer but isn't law the reason why it's all messed up over in Europe? All I see is the poorer countries in Europe complaining that the EU are forcing unrealistic environmental and green measures creating additional expenses. Throw in that EU waved duties on Ukraine imports does that not create a unbalance competitive market? 

Mind you Australia is no better, making us go 100% renewable an close own 6 coal power stations to save the world, but we will still happily export the coal to meet China's growing demand in fossil fuel requirements lol



 

 

Ryuu96 said:

Twat.

UK was the first to break the taboo of ATGMs, modern MBTs and long range missiles. Europe's total aid to Ukraine as of February 2024 was 89.6 billion, America's was 67.1 billion, "Europe" as a collective is already sending more aid than America in monetary value. America just spent months thanks to you, sending Ukraine zero in aid.

Top Countries by GDP.

  1. Estonia
  2. Denmark
  3. Lithuania
  4. Latvia
  5. Finland
  6. Poland
  7. Slovakia
  8. Sweden
  9. Netherlands
  10. Czech Republic
  11. Norway
  12. Croatia
  13. Germany
  14. Bulgaria
  15. United Kingdom
  16. Canada
  17. United States

GDP is more important because while America outspends Estonia, of fucking course Estonia can't outspend America, they literally do not have the money like America does, Trump knows this shit but he's going to use it as an excuse to pull support from Ukraine and his dumb fuck fanbase will eat it up. "WE'RE SPENDING -INSERT BILLIONS- AND SOME COUNTRIES IN EUROPE AREN'T MATCHING US!"

Does Europe need to improve? Definitely but don't mix all of Europe together, the Baltics are throwing practically everything they have, the Nordics have been incredible supporters, Central and Eastern Europe have been strong supporters, Germany has sent a ton recently, does Germany need to stop being a coward in terms of offensive support? Absolutely but that doesn't change the fact that they're spending big.

Don't mix some western European countries in with the eastern European countries, it ain't those guys at risk and the countries closer to Russia at risk at spending huge, Trump would have America throw them countries under the bus because a few countries aren't pulling their weight rather than actually call those countries out and still do the right thing but it's Trump and we know he wants to destroy NATO.

Not to forget millions of Ukrainian refugees which USA doesn't have. You can almost double the amount for Europe if you include that. Poland and Germany alone are at almost 50 billion just for refugees. 

But like you said, Trump knows all of that but he knows that his supporters are to stupid or lazy to inform themselves better.



Cobretti2 said:
shavenferret said:

Polish farmers have ended the long protests at Ukraine's border. It's about time, this was getting ridiculous. The market and demand should set the economics of trade, not some law or trade agreement.

https://euromaidanpress.com/2024/04/29/polish-farmers-terminate-border-blockade-with-ukraine-easing-tensions/

Yer but isn't law the reason why it's all messed up over in Europe? All I see is the poorer countries in Europe complaining that the EU are forcing unrealistic environmental and green measures creating additional expenses. Throw in that EU waved duties on Ukraine imports does that not create a unbalance competitive market? 

Mind you Australia is no better, making us go 100% renewable an close own 6 coal power stations to save the world, but we will still happily export the coal to meet China's growing demand in fossil fuel requirements lol

Yeah, the conflict between the neediness of a nation at war and the workers in neighboring countries... hope they can get it resolved so that everyone is happy 



shavenferret said:

Polish farmers have ended the long protests at Ukraine's border. It's about time, this was getting ridiculous. The market and demand should set the economics of trade, not some law or trade agreement.

https://euromaidanpress.com/2024/04/29/polish-farmers-terminate-border-blockade-with-ukraine-easing-tensions/

There's a funny meme I saw about European farmers and I hope nobody takes it too seriously but...

Lol...It has a hint of truth to it.

From being pro-Brexit to anti-climate change policies to blocking military aid into Ukraine.

Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 01 May 2024

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Russia, happy May Day! I am sharing the news of Ukraine giving more scraps of twisted metal and bodies. Two Russian anti aircraft systems have been blown up by drones
https://www.kyivpost.com/post/31927







shavenferret said:

Russia, happy May Day! I am sharing the news of Ukraine giving more scraps of twisted metal and bodies. Two Russian anti aircraft systems have been blown up by drones
https://www.kyivpost.com/post/31927

We already know what Russia May Day will look like.