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GOP lawmaker threatens to go nuclear if 'anarchist' MTG's bid to oust Johnson succeeds

Republicans in the House of Representatives have long expressed frustration with the antics of lawmakers such as Reps. Matt Gaetz (R-FL) and Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA), but have rarely done something concrete to stop them.

However, an anonymous House Republican tells Axios' Juliegrace Brufke that they may at last reach their breaking point should Greene's bid to oust Speaker Mike Johnson (R-LA) succeed.

"Some of us are saying if the Speaker is vacated, which would be a travesty... that we’ll nominate Steve Womack and cut the anarchists out all together," the GOP lawmaker said.

Rep. Steve Womack (R-AR) is a House Republican who has been one of the staunchest supporters of Ukraine in its attempts to repel Russia's two-year-old invasion, and electing him as speaker would certainly isolate critics of aid to the war-torn nation such as Greene, who has falsely claimed that the country is waging a war against Christianity itself.

So far, just Greene and Rep. Thomas Massie (R-KY) have said they will vote to vacate Johnson as speaker. However, given the razor-thin majority Republicans now have in the House, Johnson will need at least some Democratic votes presuming no other Republicans join in the push to remove him.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/gop-lawmaker-threatens-to-go-nuclear-if-anarchist-mtg-s-bid-to-oust-johnson-succeeds/ar-BB1lNnvl?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=1576817bc5c046f5b7eea667c4c6d6a8&ei=22

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Do it, make Steve Womack the next Speaker of the House. I don't give a fuck at this point, just send aid to Ukraine you dumb fucks !!!

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shavenferret said:

It would be nice if the EU would supply a different system of air defense, instead of relying on getting the few systems available of Patriot. Ukraine doesn't necessarily need a great system when good numbers of an average one would be very beneficial. I'm wondering what air defense system France, Germany, and GB use. Could Ukraine be supplied with a system from these nations?

Germany has supplied their IRIS-T system to Ukraine, and just a couple days ago announced sending another battery. in All, Germany pledged 12 Medium range IRIS-T SLM and 24 short-range SLS systems, out of which only 4 (3 SLM and 1 SLS, or 3+2 with the new one, which doesn't seem to be on the list yet) have have arrived so far. If Germany ramps up the deliveries of IRIS-T and their corresponding rockets, then Ukraine should have a much more adequate air defense than it has now.

France doesn't have or use any air defense systems to speak of apart from some MANPADS and naval air defense systems, so there ain't much that they could send to Ukraine from their own stocks anymore that they didn't send yet. France's doctrine is based on high mobility and is mostly focused on counter-insurgency, which tend to not have any Air Force and thus didn't need much in terms or air defense, though considering how drones are employed in Ukraine, this could change in the future.

As for the UK, they have 2 indigenous designs: A new CAMM design system called Sky Sabre (first units came online in 2022), and the smaller Starstreak, that can be both mounted on  a vehicle or used as MANPADS, the latter of which have been send in some quantities to Ukraine. The UK will probably get their units of Sky Sabre first delivered before they will send any to Ukraine, so that may take a while.

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BFR said:

Republicans in the House of Representatives have long expressed frustration with the antics of lawmakers such as Reps. Matt Gaetz (R-FL) and Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA), but have rarely done something concrete to stop them.

However, an anonymous House Republican tells Axios' Juliegrace Brufke that they may at last reach their breaking point should Greene's bid to oust Speaker Mike Johnson (R-LA) succeed.

"Some of us are saying if the Speaker is vacated, which would be a travesty... that we’ll nominate Steve Womack and cut the anarchists out all together," the GOP lawmaker said.

Rep. Steve Womack (R-AR) is a House Republican who has been one of the staunchest supporters of Ukraine in its attempts to repel Russia's two-year-old invasion, and electing him as speaker would certainly isolate critics of aid to the war-torn nation such as Greene, who has falsely claimed that the country is waging a war against Christianity itself.

So far, just Greene and Rep. Thomas Massie (R-KY) have said they will vote to vacate Johnson as speaker. However, given the razor-thin majority Republicans now have in the House, Johnson will need at least some Democratic votes presuming no other Republicans join in the push to remove him.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/gop-lawmaker-threatens-to-go-nuclear-if-anarchist-mtg-s-bid-to-oust-johnson-succeeds/ar-BB1lNnvl?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=1576817bc5c046f5b7eea667c4c6d6a8&ei=22

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Do it, make Steve Womack the next Speaker of the House. I don't give a fuck at this point, just send aid to Ukraine you dumb fucks !!!

I think the Democrats will save Mike Johnson but Republicans should go nuclear on these people regardless, there are straight up traitors to America and its allies in the GOP, Russian propagandists and a paedophile. Cut the disgusting anarchists out now, how many chances do they get? How much longer are moderate Republicans going to let the far right plague their party?





Here's Jasmine Crockett spitting absolute 🔥about that loon MTG.

Snyder refuted the suggestion that Nazis were pervasive in Ukrainian government, and he urged lawmakers to redirect their concerns about fascism to focus on Russia.

"If the chamber is interested in the degree of far-right participation in Ukrainian politics, you can be assured that no far-right party has ever crossed 3 percent … in a Ukrainian election," he said. "So, of course, there are bad people in every country, but by any comparative standard, it is a very small phenomenon."

"In Russia, on the other hand, the army includes openly Nazi formations … the government itself is fascist in character, and it is carrying out a war, which includes deportation of children by the tens of thousands, the open intention of destroying a state, as well as mass torture," Snyder said. "So if we're looking for fascism, and if there is anyone who is sincerely concerned about halting fascism or racism, you would wish to halt Russia."

"Stop bringing up Nazis and Hitler. The only people who know about Nazis and Hitler are the 10 million people and their families who lost their loved ones — generations of people who were wiped out," Moskowitz said.

"It is enough of this disgusting behavior, using Nazis as propaganda," he continued. "You want to talk about Nazis? Get yourself over to the Holocaust Museum. You go see what Nazis did."

"There are no concentration camps in Ukraine. They're not taking babies and shooting them in the ear because they're Jewish. There's no gas chambers. There's no ovens. They're not railing people in, they're not ripping gold out of people's mouths. They're not taking stuff out of their homes. They're not trying to erase a people, the Ukrainians," Moskowitz said.

Moskowitz Confronts Greene on Ukraine, Nazi Remarks | The Hill



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Ryuu96 said:

I... I can't even... does she even have any braincells left???

There's no Republican running against her, so I fear she will get re-elected again. But even then, her antics already damaged her, having dropped sharply in the amount of voters she got between 2020 and 2022, dropping from 75% to 66% of the votes.

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Ryuu96 said:

About time too. I know the amendment is at least part in jest but it feels like it should still be taken up.

Bofferbrauer2 said:

I... I can't even... does she [MTG] even have any braincells left???

You are giving her WAY too much credit. She behaves like she didn't have any to begin with.



Even Medvedev would tell her to lay off the booze.



I always wonder how people like her manage to even get into such a position, how they have a list of 100 notable accomplishments in education, from different high valued jobs and so on. Some like her don't even reach the intellect of a 10 years old.